''Spammer'' OR ''Person Needing Help''...
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I'm sure you've noticed lots of blatant advertising as soon as you join.
I don't know about you but I see two different types of people acussed of spamming:
1. PEOPLE THAT SPAM ON PURPOSE
* The ones that come accross as ''know it all'' personalities, with ''the best thing since sliced bread'' poster. I'm sure that you've seen some of those posters sometimes.
They are flashy with all the bells and wistles attached.
Or, they might just describe a huge so called ''money maker''. The more hype involved, the better. You know what I mean.
They'll put that poster or script in e-mails, videos, profiles etc... Depending on the personality type, some will post just one time, and others don't ever give up on stuffing it in your face.
I remember one example when I got an advertising post right in my guestbook. No hello, no nothing attached to it.
I wrote to the person asking if he was aware that he was spamming. His answer back was unbelievable.
He pretty much said that I would not take what he was offering, so that is why he post it in my guestbook.
I wonder if it ever occur to him that maybe I just don't want his stuff.
2. PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW THEY ARE SPAMMING
* The ones that are new to the business with nobody helping them. I've been there, a few years ago, uneducated, excited about my new opportunity and eager to show it to everyone in sight.
I had no help, I had no system to follow and I was in a business model full of hype.
The only thing I had was an upline that I only heard from if I didn't buy anything that month.
I did not know where to advertise, the little money I had went on buying useless leads and phone scripts from big ''guru's''. I was like a blindfolded person trying to catch anything with a pulse.
I was joining business communities, forums and I was placing ads everywhere I could,
hoping that someone will join me. After all, there is word out there that we are all numbers, right?
So there I was playing a numbers game in complete darkness.
Nobody offered me any help, all I was told was ''you're spamming, we'll ban you'' .
I was like an child yelled at over and over but not told what he did wrong or how to make it right.
Did anybody come out and say: ''Let me help you'' ? Nooooo.
Well, there were the ocasional ''let me help you for a price'' offers but that does not count.
Most of us have challenges in the beginning, even you, big guru's out there started somewhere. Did you somehow forget?
Next time you see a so called ''spammer'' ask yourself if that could have been you years ago with no help, no money and no hope. Take a step back and think before you point the finger.
I hope that I helped someone today!
I appreciate you,
Daniela Riess
Let's all remember this season that there is goodness in the world with no price tag on it.
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About the Author: Daniela Riess
Member Since: 12/13/2007
Company: Mentoring for Free
Industry: Marketing and Advertising
Primary Web Site: http://www.FreeSuccessKey.biz
Thank you Daniela!
The knee jerk reaction is to cast the spammer in a negative light, when it could be interperated as ignorance, or lack of knowledge on their part.
Thank you
Daniela,
Your article is so true. I am absolutely new to this business and am trying to learn as much as possible. This site is so different from the others I have been on. In fact, it is a complete opposite to so many. I think when people come here from other business forums, they do not understand the ground rules and just want to find people for their business.
I have to say that I am glad that they stress the no spamming here. I won't say what site I originally joined, but within minutes my mailbox was full of spam. I was so annoyed.
If you have any advice for new people like me on effective advertising, I am all ears!
Thanks!
Lisa
Right on!
Well put Daniela! You are always helping others. Thank you,
Timothy C Burns
Knee Jerk Reactor
To some extent you are right Daniela, and I am all for giving a person a chance to reform.
However, you have to wonder even in a state of enthusiastic naivety how a person doesn't notice that no one else is spamming. You would think that might be a clue to read the rules before posting.
Do they really think - Wow look a whole community of people who obviously don't know how to promote products, let me be the first and I will make a killing!
Hmm.
Maybe I am just too Grinch like!
Great Advice for new , and not so new
Daniela, I agree that all newcomers should be given a little latitude, as I am glad that tolerence was shown to me when I first burst on to the scene. Well intentioned spammers will come around and realize it is not an acceptable practice, and others who contunue tend to go away eventually one way or another.
Givers and takers
All takers (spamers) have is what they can take. Its the givers that get given back too multiplied many times over. The givers own the harvest. The takers just work the fields continually. I had noticed your guestbook entry sometime back and I respected you for you boldess and straightforwardness. You got what it takes.
Your friend Tom
Can someone tell me...
Can someone tell me how to agree with Daniela more? I'm new to all of this and her description is dead on.
I don't post ANYTHING, ANYWHERE, for fear of being branded as a taker. How do you give what you don't have, yet? Everywhere I turn there's a banner from/for my opportunity. But not from me.
Oh well, as long as I can read, I can learn.
I think a person who is new
I think a person who is new and goes spam crazy on their first post should be forgiven, but warned. However, I actually read the rules on what is allowed before I joined. Everyone wishes they could shout out to the world about their wonderful business. The problem is that if everyone did that, no one would listen. I joined Better Networker to make connections and exchange ideas. I have learned a lot from the articles, blogs, pod casts and more. The chances of anyone in this forum ever becoming a part of my business are slim to none. This forum will help me in networking with people I meet face to face.
Chris Grob
http://friendshiptravel.blogspot.com
NEW & CONFUSED
Having read Daniela's blog, I agree. Being new is not easy, how can we send out emails or blogs telling others about our product without being accused of spamming. Fortunately I have had some help. But most just want more money. I found BumMarketing was helpful and were not trying to sell me something. I appreciate that.
Norman
http://www.lksix38.com
Great Job
Totally agree with everthing you said. It's great to be with like minded people.Betty
Totally Agree
No matter what affiliations I join I find those who forget when they first came into the fold. The first impulse is to judge not help. I posted about this in my blog today. Few take the time to get to know you and trust that you may then ask them about what they have to offer. I have found some who are willing to help without asking for your blood. There is a saying, "you can't keep it if you don't give it away". So I appreciate the marketing guru's who have posted helpful tips and presented videos to aide those of use who are new.
The ones who need help ask...
Spammers post offers, persons needing help post questions. It's really quit simple to tell. The smart begginers commenting here are the perfect example of that.
I agree with Dean. There are to types of spammers: Those who spam thinking it's a more "direct approach" (as opposed to attraction marketing) and those who started out of ignorance but caught a clue.
I'm here to help any one who asks for it and to give spammers a lashing with words I hope they won't forget.
Thanks for posting this Daneila, it makes for interesting conversation!
Malika
www.GetPaidToProspectOnline.com
You took the words out of my mouth
You literally took the words out of my mouth. Ok maybe you put them a little better than I could have, but I was on my way to write a similar article. I am a new entrepreneur and was afraid what I was listing was coming across as spam of unworthy information. I was gonna ask the community to give me constructive private message criticism and not bash me in the public. I just want to brand myself in the community. And if I do something incorrectly Id love some advice on how I can do it better.
Kevin Miller
Just be you !
Especially on these social networking sites. Where do you live, how many kids, how long you have been married, what are your hobbies, what's your occupation (current or past), what's your opportunity you are working, what lead generating system are you using.
The answers to these questions give someone a complete picture of who you are. Some will relate and become your friend because they share your love of dogs, or the age of your kids, or your lead generating system, or what you used to do for a living or the opportunity you are in.
People will befriend you based on one or two of the pieces of information you have provided for them. Think about your own life. You meet someone in a local location. You casually talk, they find out where you live, how many kids you have, how long you've been married, what you do etc. It's normal and natural.
That's what your social networking sites are. So don't hesitate to tell people what you do, who you are, what you like etc. We're people meeting other people and learning about each other (including what opportunity you are in). Simple.
To your success,
Joyce Penner
http://joycepenner.wordpress.com
Have i been lucky or...?
Hi Daniella
Nice article, good content.
Being new to Internet Network Marketing (and new on this site) i had some "offers", but not to the extend i see here. I don´t feel "jumped", lucky mee :-).
When i started doing business not knowing the "three foot rule" and other unspoken rules and overexited with enthusiasme i tried to "persuade" people of the fantastic products i have, only to slowly drive customers away.
Even trying to be carefull about how i turned to people (working like a cat, not as a dog came later) i may have been a tad overwelming to some people when started this business a couple of years ago.
This was never my intention, but i really had tons of stuff to learn before i realized that others not nessecarily shared my enthusiasme. I had mentors to help me, but somehow didn´t listen or understood the good advice. Wow, did it hurt when i finally realized what i´ve been doing all along.
Yeah, but some good came from it! A lot of inspiration from others (like in here) made me realize that there´s a better way to work , which also makes it more fun.
I know spammers are annoying, but not all spammers are aware of the impact they have on others. So i hope that you´ll all have some patience with the new guys. Take some time to help them see the errors of thier ways. Educate them if possible.
Best wishes to all