More a philosophy than a "company"...

I Love this philosophy!

Thanks for sharing Lyn

You forgot one thing

It's a lead generation system for Vitamark.

Road worth taking!

Less traveled than mainstream MFF is a short cut to success!

Learn HOW to think, not What to think

Lynn, great article and I cannot agree with you more. Mentoring for free has significantly changed my mindset and increased my skillset. It is an absolute fabulous system that I am proud to be part of. Our mastermind group is compassionate, supportive, intelligent. etc... MFF has brought me to learn How and now I can help so many people learn how to live their dream with an abundance mentality. I suggest you get in touch with Lyn and learn HOW Mentoring for Free can help you. Great Value Lyn

Point Well Taken Lynn...

Lynn,
It is about putting the people around you that you want to be like... If you want to be wealth in friendship,health and money then hang around those type folks...

Thank you for the input...

Have a Blessed Day,

Danny & Laura

Were you will be Educated

There are lots of good companies out there Shacklee Herbal life Nuskin and Vitamark is one of them. However MENToring For FREE is Generic Training use it for what ever company you want. Just enjoy the Free Training. I have people using Mentoring for Free in all kinds of companies. But we will help you learn what many MLM people will not teach you. So they are HOT! Steaming Mad! Because our education is cutting Edge. So the ones that do not want you to learn it will try anything to make sure you do not get the Book "Success in 10 steps." They will say and do unethical things to make sure you do not get educated!!!!!! But that is ok only the critical thinkers will read it and find out why so much Hate against it from MLM people and other "Gurus" They can not Milk you anymore. They can not Hype you anymore. And you will be Self Educated. Not Self Medicated. Uncover what it is they do not want you to know. Join us Sat night live for a real live Training call. You won't believe your EARS!

Learn HOW to think

Yes I also want to say that Mentoring for Free is completely Free, the information is generic and no company names or products are ever mentioned. It just provides you with the skills you need to be successful. We can show you how to build with any business and teach you how to get qualified leads, without ever being rejected. People appreciate what you can help them with. There are 2 different ways of marketing with MFF. One is free and that is where you listen in to our 10 free training calls each week or you can pay $20. a month and that pays for your 8 websites. We can show you all of this step by step. And the incredible thing is that MFF is NOT an affiliate program, no one gets a profit from that $20. that goes directly into your websites. Anyone here will be happy to help. : )

Doubt whether anyone will have the guts to answer but ...

"However MENToring For FREE is Generic Training use it for what ever company you want. " - Juanita

How can you take your downline to a MFF call when Vitamark is the only company that fits the 5 pillars? How can you take your downline to a MFF call when Vitamark is the only company that doesn't have all those "gotchas" in it's P&Ps? How can you take your downline to a MFF call when binaries, stair step breakaways, matrix comp plans don't work for whatever reason they give you? I imagine you'd lose your downline pretty quick when they questioned you about the company they had joined under you. Where would your credibility be then? You brought them into a company that does that?

Why is it so tough to admit MFF is a sales funnel for Vitamark and the way you introduce people to Vitamark is by showing someone how terrible the company they are in is?

I still have all the sheets that show how many people it takes to make $10K in every company (found out by personal experience those figures are BS). I still have all the notes printed off the DlouhyVita group of the horrible stuff other companies have in their P&Ps (found out why some of those things we taught people were terrible aren't so terrible after all).

I don't believe any of the many ex MFF people I meet up with are steaming hot or mad about anything (as Juanita wrote) other than when Dlouhy freely maligns someone who doesn't deserve it. Then it's more disgust than anger.

There is some training that is beneficial within the MFF system such as Richard Dennis' blog writing skills, the colours training but when people start using their colour as an excuse it is being misused. "It's not my fault, I'm a blue."

"No one gets a profit from that $20." Think about that one Stefanie. When was the last time your websites were updated? I read a critique (from an impartial source) who's first comment was how outdated the websites were. All that money goes where exactly if it's not used to keep your websites and back office up to date and current?

I left MFF partially because I was tired of lying to people. We only made money (which is why I got involved in network marketing in the first place) when we funneled them through to Vitamark. Hours and hours spent on the phone holding people's hands, making them feel good, being friendly in the hopes they would finally ask me what company I was with. Why lie about it? I'm in business. I'm involved with a company. I had and have an agenda - to feed my kids. You have an agenda too (whatever your reasons are) unless starting a business for you didn't entail making money?

Way too many times I read something derogatory about the very men and women who ARE helping people make money, comments such as: "They can not Milk you anymore. They can not Hype you anymore." Yet what are MFF people doing? Proven System??? People are involved in MFF for years paying $150 - $200 a month for product and not making anymore than $20, $30 bucks a month (enough to cover the MFF fee maybe).

Just like Juanita, I made it to Diamond and I made just over $4000 in one year. Subtract the cost of my product $2400 and $240 for MFF and my profit for a years worth of 10 - 12 hours days was $1,400. When I do something I give 110% and I knew MFF forward and backwards so I know the whole spiel, blindfolded, in my sleep. Care to calculate how much I was making per hour? Less than .02 cents an hour. For a year ! But I stuck it out because I believed you have to keep going. You can't quit. It takes years to build a business. You have to be prepared to work hard for 3 to 5 years before you can make a couple thousand a month. Sound familiar? Guess what ? - you can make a couple thousand a month a lot quicker than that !

I am very well aware that any of the diehard MFF people will not see one light bulb here but if anyone is even thinking about joining MFF understand a couple of things:
1.) you will have people tell you all the time how much they love you.
2.) You won't make any significant money
3.) You will spend hours and hours on the phone either on the training calls or researching other's companies, or just being friendly to everyone in the hopes they will like you enough to ask you what company you are with.
4.) Hype is a part of the whole procedure i.e. MFF is a proven system (?), we help everyone for free (with the hopes you'll join Vitamark), follow the successful people (success appears to be defined as how good you feel about yourself and not how much $ you make), we're here to be your friend (again in the hopes they'll like you enough to ask you what company you are with), you learn 'how to think, not what to think' yet everyone repeats the party line and not once has anyone answered a direct question with an upfront answer. Lots of personal derogatory comments but never an upfront answer.
5.) You will leave the company you are currently with (after you get educated of course)
6.) You will be taught to never mention Vitamark until you have successfully pointed out the "gotchas" in someone's current company and they know, like and trust you enough to say "Oh my, what am I going to do? You have been such a help to me, please tell me what company you are with." Now there's the know, like and trust in full play done with love and caring and no agenda of course.

One thing I have discovered as I searched for effective answers online was at least the "gurus" are upfront and honest with you. "Yah, this course is going to cost you X amount of money but I'm going to throw in this bonus and this bonus and here's the proof it works, IF you do the work."

And they won't ask their downline to send them money so they can fly home from a speaking tour they are doing !

Oh and I never could answer "the" question adequately and it appears nobody else can either: If it's "not your fault" you made some stupid decisions, who's is it?

Onwards and upwards, building a "business" for dare I say it? Profit !
Joyce Penner

And yes I sleep really well at night because now I am helping people build business relationships with an open and upfront philosophy of "we're here to make money and we'll do it together".