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Scams In Creating Urgency With Sales Copy

Postby Marius Lombaard on Tue May 03, 2011 8:35 am

I'm totally for the idea of creating urgency, but not at the risk of my reputation.

Have you ever encountered sites where the urgency of the sale made you smell a rat?

Consider these examples:

1) Faking Limited Availability

I've seen websites with count-down tickers that are real, as well as fake. :o

It's simple to spot the fakers. You just wait for the ticker to reach zero, then refresh the website and it starts counting down from the original number again. (cant remember the site though, it was years ago)

2) Faking a promotional deadline

I've seen honest sellers who actually keep to the promoted deadlines, and dishonest sellers that use php scripts to always set the deadline x-amount of days into the future (this one was a ClickBank Affiliate Vendor site)

I hopped onto that site a few days later, ready to pay the premium for missing out on the 2-day deadline. Lo and behold, the promotion was still set to expire in 2 days. :shock:

Integrity means everything to consumers. At that point I simply refused to buy their product.

3) Promotional deadlines becoming an arbitrary choice of the seller

Seriously... Don't let me watch through a sales video, then near the end tell me that you reserve the right to take the deal down at any time, but you don't know when. This is just embarrassing. :oops:

When a promo-deadline becomes an arbitrary choice, it means you can just put the deal back on anytime when you need to make money and sales again. This is just as good as faking a promotional deadline.

The bottom line is that it's not really a deadline when it's an arbitrary choice, because if you do take it down, eventually you will put it up again and my mailbox will alert me that the deal is on again - because I'm on your mailing list dummy! And consumers are not stupid - We know when you're talking BS, even if you are the biggest hotshot sales guy on the planet.

I was so close to buying a product from a particular website, and - BAM !! - I lost all respect for the seller when he said "I don't know when, but at some point I'll close this deal down to buyers... blah blah".

To me that just eliminated any sense of urgency, because I knew he'd have to put it back on again (if he really ever took it down to begin with...).

How do I know? Because he's a salesman for goodness sakes! He has to put food on the table every day of the week, and he has to pay insurance for his flashy sportscar and all the other wonderful things he enjoys as an entrepreneur. He can't afford to completely take the deal down forever. Its just plain impossible.

Needless to say I later bought a similar product, at a much lower price, and in the opinion of many people, equally as good (if not better).

Have your say and comment/respond to this thread. Let's improve our work ethic and raise a standard in writing good copy.
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Re: Scams In Creating Urgency With Sales Copy

Postby Jeff Mitchell on Mon May 16, 2011 8:39 pm

Here is one "launch" secret that is still killing it and it drives me crazy!

Spend 7-10 days on the initial launch and promise that the offer will never
be available again and then 4 days later drop this line...

" so many people have been begging to ......., so we decided to open it up for
41.3 (lol) hours"

This has been done with every big launch in the last 2 years that it is running old in my book, although I am sure that it is stilll gettting a killer response, and people are still going to go for it I don't really like it.

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Re: Scams In Creating Urgency With Sales Copy

Postby Marius Lombaard on Tue May 17, 2011 6:56 am

i thought the leaders in this industry purposely chose not to respond to this topic (probably because most of them are guilty on at least my 3rd remark about arbitrary limited availability), but i'm glad to see someone picked up on this discussion. thanks jeff.

although i'll give the leaders credit that for the most part they're innocent on the first two accounts.

those who violate #3 know who they are. i dont suspect well get them to respond here, but it remains a very valid point for me.

buyers are looking for integrity from sellers. #3 frequently kills the integrity issue for me and i've chosen not to buy on many occasions where this was used- because for me, it was clear that there is no real limited availability. they completely failed to get me to take action through their copywriting.

i can smell BS a mile away, and others can too...
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Re: Scams In Creating Urgency With Sales Copy

Postby Ray Whittaker on Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:44 am

As we all know, the idea of scarcity is a much abused selling technique; especially in the online marketing world. I've never really been a great fan of the idea but if it sells, what are you going to do?

It's not limited to online marketers either. I don't know if you get anything similar where you live but in the UK there are TV ads running all the time that declare the sale ending on Sunday. One or two large and (somewhat) respectable furniture stores run that type of campaign. It seems they have a sale ending every other Sunday (perhaps not that often but it seems like it). We know that another 'sale' is going to start the very next week, but people still buy into the myth that they're getting something at a knock down price.
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Re: Scams In Creating Urgency With Sales Copy

Postby Schwen Larson on Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:21 pm

NumberOneGeneTeam wrote:Here is one "launch" secret that is still killing it and it drives me crazy!

Spend 7-10 days on the initial launch and promise that the offer will never
be available again and then 4 days later drop this line...

" so many people have been begging to ......., so we decided to open it up for
41.3 (lol) hours"

This has been done with every big launch in the last 2 years that it is running old in my book, although I am sure that it is stilll gettting a killer response, and people are still going to go for it I don't really like it.

Jeff Mitchell


Yeah, that sort of thing makes some marketers very angry; that sort of thing is just a scam. If people actually keep to their time and quantity limits, regardless of how many people beg them for "just one more" or whatever, then each time they have a launch, they'll sell that much more.
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Re: Scams In Creating Urgency With Sales Copy

Postby Jireh Manzano on Sat May 12, 2012 7:09 am

I am always skeptical when people are trying to sell something online and use statements that seem too good to be true.

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