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Postby monica odenwald on Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:25 am

I have heard some pretty interesting definitions of "Money" in my past. One was that it is a unit of energy we have chosen to exchange with.

My latest is: Money is a measurable value humans have placed on the relationships involved with all the essential resources that we are blessed to utilize here on this amazing planet.

Whats your definition of money and how it related to who you are?

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Re: How Does Money Control Who Your Are?

Postby Joyce Penner on Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:45 pm

My favourite is that money is a neutral force that should be used for "good".
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Re: How Does Money Control Who Your Are?

Postby monica odenwald on Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:57 pm

Here are some of my favorite quotes on MONEY, thanks for sharing yours...

Money can't buy you happiness but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery.
Spike Milligan

The love of money is the root of all evil. Bible; 1 Timothy, 6. 10.

A rich man is nothing but a poor man with money. W. C. Fields

A fool and his money are easily parted. Proverb

What's the use of happiness? It can't buy you money. Henny Youngman

"Money is in some respects life's fire: it is a very excellent servant, but a terrible master." P(hineas)
T(aylor) Barnum

A wise person should have money in their head, but not in their heart.
Jonathan Swift (1667-1745) Irish-born English satirist.

Lack of money is the root of all evil.
-George Bernard Shaw

One must be poor to know the luxury of giving.
-George Eliot
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Re: How Does Money Control Who Your Are?

Postby Jack Isaacs on Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:56 pm

Money does strange things to people, it's the funniest thing. I think we become what our habits are, based on upbringing and choices. So over time, whether an abundance or lack of money seems to "control" our habits by directing us to say or do things we may not normally practice. True, money does not buy happiness, but the things you can do with having money is wonderous.

When I talk with folks that are interested with what I do, I am not surprised at all anymore that money is almost always at the TOP of the list. I think it's much more than that...I mean, my company helps CHANGE the direction of individuals' lives forever! I've seen it over and over again. That is HUGE! Never in my life have I ever attracted so many people who simply WANT to know what in the world I'm up to! Now that may be because of being upbeat and entusiastic overall, or because of the opportunity to do real well and make some serious cash - rather quickly. That usually opens people's eyes.

More importantly though, what is your definition of being successful with relation to your monetary value? Are you satisfied with working a normal 9-5 job as long as you have money to afford a good house and some other things? Do you want to make so much money that you can literally buy anything you want? Maybe you don’t even care about the money. Are you more interested in just finding something you are really passionate about and pursuing it? Money is not everybody’s driving desire.

It is really interesting to see so many different methods among people with so much in common to reach a somewhat common goal.
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Re: How Does Money Control Who Your Are?

Postby Adam Taha on Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:21 pm

Time is money.

This is actually the fundamental principles in economics concepts. Which is also known as fthe "discounted present value of money." Robert Kiyosaki, prepared me well in his education courses.

This affected me in a positive way. Since time is money, I don't do everything but outsource as much as I can. Or, I'm just a self employed instead of a business owner. So it impacted me in thinking and changing my ways.

It's very interesting question and I've always wondered about it, which was the very reason why I liked Robert Kiyosaki teaching on financial literacy.

We're better off recieving $100 today than....tomorrow, with money but we got a challenge too.

Time can also decrease the value of money, which we know as inflation. The $100 we spend today, can buy more now, than it can in 5 years time or less.

If we look at the stirling pound, we could buy a lot 10 years ago. I could buy fish and chips, bread, milk too, and on top, something else.

This got me thinking as a teenager and really gave a bad taste to my mouth because I begun to wonder at the age of 15 years old..

"Hang on. If I work on that wage, and year after year inflation kicking, and my wages ain't going to rise but a few pounds and nothing at all - then I'd rather not work in a job but get skill in monies."

Now, in the present day, you can't get a bottle of milk, chips, bread for just a stirling pound. Milk bottle cost 95p today. A little bigger cost £1.10p.

You can't even go on a bus for a few stops with one stirling pound.

You can tell I'm very tight with my monies :twisted:

The second law of money I learnt 12 years ago is this..

It's not how much money you make that counts, but how much you keep.

Now, ain't that a beauty and wisdom. If we don't have the financial education then Inland Revenue can kick our butt and so other things in life due to lack of financial literacy.

What's more interesting is this, regarding control.

In one hand, money does not control who you are but rather the belief system in the person. And yet, collectively, as a society, and as a world, it can have an affect in the economy by the way people spend and don't spend - collectively.

This is where the rich and wealthy observe very carefully, and become the masters of money not the other way round.

While the poor and fearful suddenly rush to sell, the rich buy. While the poor buy, the rich sell.

So yes, money does contol certain aspects in the world but....it doesn't control who you are if you're financially literate. Who you are is determined by your set of beliefs, which triggers behaviour, which renders one to be where they are today.

The rich make money when times are hard and when times are not hard. Even in recesssion.

When one is financially literate, you become the master of money and not the other way round.

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Re: How Does Money Control Who Your Are?

Postby monica odenwald on Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:33 pm

Hi Jack, I love it! Someone who can talk about money on this FORUM on many levels. Isn't our relationship and attitudes towards money huge! But step that up a notch to WEALTH and suddenly its a whole other equation.

I know I have put myself and my life on hold for years when I was poorer. Thanks for sharing
I enjoyed your questions to ask oneself at the end of your post.

Some people on my team are poor and motivated...but I swear its the comfortable middle class people who spend all their money or borrow to have more luxuries and more modern conveniences that don't really ever get beyond the money trap.

By the way, some of the best people I know don''t center their lives on making money. Their lives are all about knowledge or enlightenment or specializing with their gifts and sharing their talents with this world. The whole subject of money, of "the haves" or "have nots" is not a new one in human history!

Thanks again for getting me to think more about the power money holds over people. Money is a powerful motivator but it falls short of supplying the air we breath and the light that starts our day.
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Re: How Does Money Control Who Your Are?

Postby monica odenwald on Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:43 pm

Thanks Adam, as usual you teach when you talk.

My confession is new to even me...my lack of education regarding money runs deep because I have it ingrained in me to spend for today not save for tomorrow.

That has got to do with my "live for today" not "save for tomorrow" lifestyle, too.

When I recently had better that ten grand go through my hand in a month, my children all got musical instruments and inspiration to fulfill their dreams and goals in every way that required monetary means.

Wouldn't you agree Adam that becoming a millionaires is must for everyone who wants to think big and dream in today's world. 23 million is supposed to be the magic number.

Thanks again for bringing my mind back to reality - energy is worth money - time is just a boundary we use to determine how to expend and save our energy by!

Your energy is so valuable to this world!
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Re: How Does Money Control Who Your Are?

Postby Chris Tryon on Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:04 pm

Monica, please forgive my sarcasm. One of my favorite quotes about money is, "If you don't believe that money buys happiness, try being broke for awhile."

Money has helped my family live in a nice neighborhood. It helps that for 20 years that I have gotten really good at being frugal. I love the thrill of the hunt for bargains. So, even when the day comes that my husband and I are millionaires, I am still going to keep my "black belt in bargain hunting." Our family will give generously to our favorite charities and perhaps have a "few more toys" as my husband says, but overall, in my opinion, it isn't how much money you have that counts, it is what you do with it that matters.

There are a lot of millionaires and celebrities that are down right miserable. I do not aspire to be like them.
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Re: How Does Money Control Who Your Are?

Postby Richard Bravo on Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:40 pm

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Money amplifies a person's true nature. It simply makes you more of who you really are inside.

If you're a selfish jerk only looking out for #1, guess what - more money will manifest more of that.

If you're the kind of person who fills your needs and is also concerned with others and have a passion to share your good fortune and empower those in need... an abundance of money will manifest more of that in your life.

At least that's what I've seen.
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Re: How Does Money Control Who Your Are?

Postby Adam Taha on Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:27 pm

mkodenwald@yahoo.ca wrote:Thanks Adam, as usual you teach when you talk.

My confession is new to even me...my lack of education regarding money runs deep because I have it ingrained in me to spend for today not save for tomorrow.

That has got to do with my "live for today" not "save for tomorrow" lifestyle, too.

When I recently had better that ten grand go through my hand in a month, my children all got musical instruments and inspiration to fulfill their dreams and goals in every way that required monetary means.

Wouldn't you agree Adam that becoming a millionaires is must for everyone who wants to think big and dream in today's world. 23 million is supposed to be the magic number.

Thanks again for bringing my mind back to reality - energy is worth money - time is just a boundary we use to determine how to expend and save our energy by!

Your energy is so valuable to this world!


Hi Monica.

My pleasure mate. I learn a lot too from people here. Great place to be.

Yes, I believe it is a good goal to aim at.

It can be done if we align ourselves with people who have already done it. That's what I've done and they not even in the same company.

I had to chase the knowledge, no matter how much it cost and when I did, on the first day, the knowledge was just so valuable, I literally wiped out my debts on my cards in no more than a month.

How?

They know the rule of the game.

The millionnaires know the law of tax and the law of the money system, credit card system. They use this knowledge, and play the game. They hunt like a pack of leaders, together, even when they are all in different businesses.

Imagine...

Wealth, right there to tap into and people don't know how and don't even realise they can.

It's not the money that's the problem.

It's the lack of knowledge of the rules and many are not willing to invest in learning these rules and play the game. And what we were programmed about money, wealth years ago.

You know..

"Oh, you don't need so much money. Why he got all that money for!"

And, "It's the rich, they got all the money while we..."

And, "Money is evil.."

And, "God will let the poor in first.."

And the Too much of this, "Oh it's risky."

More and more, hammered at us from day one for years and it needs to be diluted. Takes time, association, knowledge, real knowledge.

It's risky to not play the game, to not know the rules. To end up broke after working for years. And running a business not knowing the rules of Tax, the laws.

It's risky saving the money. People must be freaking mad saving money when they can get knowledge on how to invest.

I mean, do people think, Richard Brandson took out millions of pounds to buy planes?

Do they think he used his own money to do all those stunts and set up businesses left right and centre?

He knew the rules of the game.

He used...Other People's Money.

The Rich always use other people's money.

He knew the game and he can get money anywhere because of his knowledge on how to play with the system.

The REAL wealth wasn't money. It's knowledge.

It all clicked together for me years ago. It happened by accident when I called about my credit card and she says..

"Have you asked for our special offers?"

And I heard someone say something to her on other side.

"Special offers," I asked.

"Oh, it's ok. I meant something else."

That's when it hit me.


Imagine, not knowing the rules of the game on your credit card.

The rule of, "if you don't ask, you don't get," but how can you ask for something you don't know exist?

Aha!

Imagine, you found out you can get your rates lower, interest rates lower, get a higher card, platinumn, and even have it top up to $100,000.

Imagine if you knew how to use that money by knowing proven strategies. Taught to yah by a millionnaire. And all one has to do is follow and apply, and have telephone ready to call mentor.

My search started long before this. It started when I was 9 years old. Seeing people starve before me, banks using us, politicians rich, and we had nothing.

And when they made a mistake - we the people got to pay the price.

I wanted to know, what is it I was missing and when I thought those words back then - ever since, I went chasing for this knowledge.

This path took me from the other end of the world to one country, to another, and until I landed in UK. The hunger was big and still is.

It caused a ripple effect, leading me to one thing to another, knowing I was getting closer. The Kaboom!

And each stage, through the whole journey, by accident, not knowing I'd keep doing it - I started documenting the journey.

From 16 years old and onwards, till now, 40 years old, I've documented the journey so other generations know of it, and can follow pursuit.

It was like writing down the steps, and sending it to the portal of the future, where they oneday, turn a key, and a hologram speaks of the journey.

The journey got me to find Robert Kiyosaki books.

Then meeting multi-millionnaires. Then the courses he created in UK.

Then more events happened, one after another with speed.

I can't wait for next year 2010 because now, I'm prepared, real prepared and excited because we are the captain of our own destiny.

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