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Postby Ron V. on Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:56 pm

Ok. Ordered my MS package have had it for 2 weeks, and have read it 3 times. I think I get the gist of things... but I could use some help.

1: I (think I) understand what Mike is talking about where the Alpha Networker is concerned. I am supposing that part of bringing yourself up to the Alpha Networker is concerened is marketing the product, getting the leads you haven't gotten before with other methods, feeling good about that and going on to progress. I guess one question I have is ( and I know that this will be more an opinion question than anything else ) A: how do you actually get up to the Alpha Networker mentality? B: How do you maintain it? One of the examples I'll use that Mike talks about is having the Alpha Networker mentality of abundance. I've heard this in other materials as well, and my difficulty with this is: I know what my J.O.B. is paying me, I know what my financial situation currently is ( I know it can change ). So till I can learn how to make my other "streams of income" flow, I have to start small, and with what I can afford. So I started off with MS. My intent is to use the proceeds from sales to fund the rest of the courses. But these questions still bug me.

2: I submitted an article to the first 2 free article submission sites, but not the other 3 as I wasn't ready to do a "press release" format, and wanted to see how that wouid work for me.

I submitted classifieds to the free classified submission sites mentioned in the back office, and then did a search online like they recommend. Thing is, I got HUNDREDS of sites that I'd never even heard of, so I figured, what the heck and submitted to a bunch of them too. Yep, got one on craigslist too. My question here is: Can anyone recommend good free classified submission sites that got good volume? Free for now, because as I mentioned above I need to generate income from MS so that I can then buy the rest of the courses, and then be able to fund the other advertising. (Another side questions here would be to Mike, how did you start? When you were bussing tables, and you had to sell your bike and dvd's, what sites did you go to, to get started and generate the volume that you did? )

3: I understand that Mike makes a point of saying a few times to avoid spamming. I was wondering: ( I use Outlook 2003 for Windows ) are there any issues with having an auto responder ( Outlook has a feature that if for example you're going on vacation, then you can set an auto responder to say thank you for your email but I'm out of town for now ) to promote MS and the other packages?

I'm sure I have a bunch of other questions, but this darned cold / flu is bugging me, and I can't think very well at moment. Any other advice on the gist of these questions would be appreciated as well.

Thank you guys, in advance, I've been perusing this thread, and I like the way the "guru's" here handle the rest of us "newbies". Keep up the good work!

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Re: Multiple questions

Postby Cynthia Acoff on Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:37 pm

Hi Ron V., let's see where do I start....
MS is designed as an affiliate. You market MS to gain money in order to market your Primary Business, not to buy more courses. If you wish to buy more courses with the money, it's up to you, but it's a way to gain money to market your primary business.
Free Classifieds: You are doing what everyone else does if you want to market for free. You have to do an Internet Search and post to the free sites if you post classified ads. I would advise, because there are hundreds of thousands of sites; that you keep a notepad handy and jot down the website and your passwords. It can be a chore to keep up with all the free classified sites. Also, with free classified sites, you will want to go back to the site at least once per week to update or tweak your ad. This will keep your ad near top position.
Spamming: What Mike means by Spamming is don't force feed your biz to anyone that hasn't asked for it. For example, on Social Networking Sites, like BN, notice how we post articles, blogs and to the forum and we don't talk about our primary business. The key is to Brand Yourself, promote yourself as an expert and it will draw people to you. So learn all you can and you will develop skills as you go along and you will speak on certain topics as an expert and people will follow you and when people follow you, they will want to know what you do and what you know. However, you can create a signature and post your biz link in your signature. As you post to the forums, you can add your signature at the end with your biz links in it.
Autoresponders: This is a great follow-up tool to use. If someone replys to your ad or asks for more information, or Spams you (because they contacted you first), you can set them to receive follow-up messages via autoresponder.

Hopefully I answered some of your questions :)
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Re: Multiple questions

Postby Ron V. on Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:04 pm

Hello Cynthia, and thank you for your reply :)

cacoff wrote: Hi Ron V., let's see where do I start....
MS is designed as an affiliate. You market MS to gain money in order to market your Primary Business, not to buy more courses. If you wish to buy more courses with the money, it's up to you, but it's a way to gain money to market your primary business.


Yes, I got that, it's just that I was not able to purchase the other tools, that I hear a lot of people ( in the forums ) are really enjoying, so I was just mentioning that I had to do this piecemeal, and that I know that I might not get the discounts :)

cacoff wrote: Free Classifieds: You are doing what everyone else does if you want to market for free. You have to do an Internet Search and post to the free sites if you post classified ads. I would advise, because there are hundreds of thousands of sites; that you keep a notepad handy and jot down the website and your passwords. It can be a chore to keep up with all the free classified sites. Also, with free classified sites, you will want to go back to the site at least once per week to update or tweak your ad. This will keep your ad near top position.


Great advice, I hadn't thought of that.

cacoff wrote: Spamming: What Mike means by Spamming is don't force feed your biz to anyone that hasn't asked for it. For example, on Social Networking Sites, like BN, notice how we post articles, blogs and to the forum and we don't talk about our primary business. The key is to Brand Yourself, promote yourself as an expert and it will draw people to you. So learn all you can and you will develop skills as you go along and you will speak on certain topics as an expert and people will follow you and when people follow you, they will want to know what you do and what you know. However, you can create a signature and post your biz link in your signature. As you post to the forums, you can add your signature at the end with your biz links in it.


I got this, but in the book he mentions to only send emails to people that you previously know. Now I don't have any "professional leads lists", well, not any that I paid for, but I do have other public sources that I can pull email addresses off of, as well as "lists" that I've accumulated over time, not so much to promote my primary business, but to just put up Mikes either the 2/3 line classifieds or the email message that's provided in the back office. I don't intend on using an "email blaster", but would write each email seperately, even to people I haven't spoken to in years. Would this be acceptable, or would that be considered spamming?

cacoff wrote: Autoresponders: This is a great follow-up tool to use. If someone replys to your ad or asks for more information, or Spams you (because they contacted you first), you can set them to receive follow-up messages via autoresponder.


So long as it isn't "auto spam", yeah, that was what I had in mind. I figured that if they can "spam" me first, what have I got to lose by responding to them? :) I just wanted to make sure I was following the rules so that I wasn't banned.

cacoff wrote: Hopefully I answered some of your questions :)


Quite a bit, thanx!

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Re: Multiple questions

Postby Cynthia Acoff on Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:39 pm

cacoff wrote:
I got this, but in the book he mentions to only send emails to people that you previously know. Now I don't have any "professional leads lists", well, not any that I paid for, but I do have other public sources that I can pull email addresses off of, as well as "lists" that I've accumulated over time, not so much to promote my primary business, but to just put up Mikes either the 2/3 line classifieds or the email message that's provided in the back office. I don't intend on using an "email blaster", but would write each email seperately, even to people I haven't spoken to in years. Would this be acceptable, or would that be considered spamming?


You can email to previous lists, only if you have communicated with them before. Just be sure to input a clause at the beginning that says something like "you are receiving this message because we have shared business ideas in the past..." and then put a clause at the end that gives them an option to remove themself from your list if they no longer wish to receive messages from you. If you do this, then it is not considered Spam. However, If you just have a list of emails, and you have not communicated with these people or developed a relationship with them, it would be considered as Spam. As you build on a new list, like through your MS leads, when you call them (using the script that MS gives) you can also ask them if it is okay to send ocassional emails as you come across some good things. Usually they say yes, and you can add them to your list as a contact. Remember, the key is to "Build Relationship" with people.

Also, to answer another question regarding "Alphas". An Alpha is an attitude you have while you are marketing and prospecting. To be an Alpha, just means you carry yourself as a leader in the industry. Mike goes through the different scenarios that show how to handle yourself as an Alpha.

One more thing, if you are going to be an Alpha and Brand yourself as an expert and leader, please start by submitting a picture of yourself. Attraction Marketing - build your profile page as well.

Glad I could be of help to you.
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Re: Multiple questions

Postby Phillip and Jessica Mihalakis on Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:39 am

I am new to MS as well. My question is if we are promoting MS and the only thing we can do is call them leads how does that build us up as the leader. What is the whole concept? To get your own auto responder and somehow get them to opt-it to that as well? I read the book and it says you don't need a system because MS is all you need and then in chapter 8 it talks about creating a newsletter I am totally confused :shock: I was with a system that does all that for you or helps you to create a presence and decided this was the way to go but not I'm not sure. The only thing I wanted to do was gain leads for my primary business. Does anyone please have some suggestions for me? Thank you in advance :)
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Re: Multiple questions

Postby Reynaldo Perales on Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:54 pm

Personally...

..it's been said if you don't have a marketing system you are in direct sales!..

Now, the only reason I designed a system when system did not exist was to help
folks that I knew and were not educated and in no way most if not all would
succeed..

Of course they became curious when all of a sudden I started buying their needs
and wondered where the money came from..I told them about it and the rest
is history..All they had to do what I was doing passing a cassette tape around with
ID# and the 800 number of the company..

For now though..anyone can do this..

I personally..plan on a training newsletter a small fee to join when the time comes
the fee pays for their autoresponder subscription with residual income..

I choose Traffic Wave because of their great support including ways to help you
succed with responder..

Having a newsletter gives me control to help the sponsoring 3 for each after I get their
affiliate link..and using the fee and little extra from my trick of the trade..

My attitude has always been like my moms'..I don't care about myself only for the
other..

Autoresponder to me is the most essential tool on this here net and why not take
advantage of some 70, 80 thousand dollar per month..which is no big deal with a
system..

rey
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Re: Multiple questions

Postby Jordan Schultz on Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:15 pm

by Phillip and Jessica Mihalakis on Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:39 pm

I am new to MS as well. My question is if we are promoting MS and the only thing we can do is call them leads how does that build us up as the leader. What is the whole concept?


Selling these products WILL NOT promote you as a leader!

Although you should promote MS and all of the other products that come along with it, You don't want to just go out and try and sell these books and think you're going to become a leader. Becoming the Alpha will only happen after you learn how to market and then you turn around and teach people how to market. Do some research, read some articles on specific marketing techniques, and then turn around and teach people how to market. Once you become the teacher and you get some students you are the leader. Another great way to learn would be to read some forum posts on specific topics that interest you, research articles for an answer, and then when you post an answer, not only are you a leader/teacher, but you've also learned some quality knowledge for yourself!

One great way I've found to share information with a large group of people, is to start a facebook group, I then send out a weekly e-mail with a new training technique and some ideas for marketing online. While doing this, a lot of people have come to me to ask questions about marketing, and thanked me for sharing my knowledge with them!
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