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Re: Can signing up with the right leader gurantee you anything ?

Postby Lee St.Louis on Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:52 am

neisha82 wrote:Bingo the response that I was looking for , I was just telling someone that the other day . I've heard stories where people said that it took them 2-3 years to generate a single lead and now they are at top levels based on their faith .




Thats it! Winners NEVER quit, and quitters NEVER win! Those who never give up are the ones who make it, drive that ferrari, retire in the bahamas, and enjoy all the time they want with their loved ones. It doesnt matter if 1000 people said NO. If you don't give up, you'll find a solution.(I'm exaggerating of course..most people give up after 10-20 NO's).....no matter what your dreams are in life, follow this rule and you'll succeed: Never, EVER give up!!!!

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Re: Can signing up with the right leader gurantee you anything ?

Postby Brother Kaleem on Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:08 am

Upline whoever is no guarantee of your success.

The only thing standing between you and your goals is you... and your goals.
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Re: Can signing up with the right leader gurantee you anything ?

Postby Roger Crews on Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:33 am

yes it can but its still up to you . if you follow there lead and use what they share with you , and do your part yes . they want do it for you . the old saying that applies here is" give a man a fish he can eat for a day , but teach that man how to fish and he can eat for a life time" .
advice for you in another area . do not fall for the same thing i have fail for . and signup under someone who seems to be a heavy hitter and at the top of most of the leader boards you can see and expect to get spillover from them. it will disappoint you greatly and cost you money as well . i have been there and done that . just dont do it no matter who it is it want happen in a matrix pay plan for sure
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Re: Can signing up with the right leader gurantee you anything ?

Postby Lukas Kotatko on Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:21 am

brotherkaleem wrote: :mrgreen:

The only thing standing between you and your goals is you...


cool saying, thanx
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Re: Can signing up with the right leader gurantee you anything ?

Postby Charles Amith on Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:32 am

@ Roger - I agree. The idea of spillover sounds cool...but don't count on it. When jumping into an opportunity, expect some guidance, but don't expect somebody to build "your" business for you.

@ Lee - totally agree. I remember back in 1999, I ended up reading tons of books about recruiting and prospecting. While the company did provide some training, I didn't see anybody in the local team that was getting the results that I wanted. Most of the seminars were motivational "rah-rah" events. I was pretty motivated already and I just needed a step-by-step process besides "talk to people that you know" and "meet new people". That's the simplified system, but there's much more too it than that. A bunch of leaders just want to keep things simple...but that was too simple IMHO.

@ Neisha - Back in 1999, I jumped into an opportunity without doing any research...I pretty much fell for the hype. While it was a learning opportunity, I pretty much saw "the blind following the blind". While my upline wanted to be the leader, I had a hard time following her since I didn't feel that she was sincere in her approach and I didn't see her get great results either.

So fast forward close to 8 years later, I thought I was smarter this time around and told myself that I had to do my own due diligence.

So I did my research and identified the top leaders in certain companies that I was interested in. I went directly to a guy that was within the top 5 of 1 company and thought spillover would have a great effect. Unfortunately I was several layers down on a forced matrix/hybrid and didn't get any spillover at all.

As far as leadership goes, there was none. I didn't even get any email afterwards regarding the company. Did I feel bad? Not really. After getting a bunch of experience over the years, I already knew what to do. Also, the company did have training.

Here's another thing that I have to mention... you've gotta think about what the leader is going through too. Imagine you had a team of 10,000 people or more. I'm sure you'd agree that you would not have enough time in the day to help all of those people in a manner that would be totally effective for them. Yeah...conference calls and webinars help, but it's not the same thing as that person going out to the field with you or holding your hand every step of the way.

You'd expect that person to have some great team leaders to help you...but again, that's not the case all of the time and everybody has their own priorities as well.

So the main idea that I'm trying to tell you is to use what ever your company offers to "help" you build your business. Constantly learn (and do) in the process and then you'll learn what to do and what not to do. From there you'll have the knowledge, experience, and confidence to help others.

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Re: Can signing up with the right leader gurantee you anything ?

Postby Adam Taha on Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:45 pm

There was one thing that really helped when tough time kicked in with sponsoring and selling..

My wife would say, "No sales, no one sponsored?"
I'd reply, "It's ok. It's meant to happen that way for a while."
"What you mean?" She'd ask.
"I'm learning. No sales and no sponsoring, helps me figure out the answer. Just got to learn, keep trying till I find the answer.."

That's how it is.

It really helped thinking that way and helped to not take anything personal. Not yes, no, and all that.

Instead, it was about, "to get better. To master this part and then this part."

In doing so, I kept a journal, writing notes down and I'd email it to my team. This became like a manual called "How to Get Your Prospect To Take You Seriously."

When I started the journal, something happened in my mind. It became exciting. Like an adventure. To figure out how to do it, and unravelling the mysteries of people skills, recruiting, duplication, sales, develop team.

So, when we do it, with a mindset of, 'I'll get better, I'm learning. It's ok. That's where everyone started," it helps mentally, toughns us as well emotionally.

I'm doing same now online. Writing journal, going through each step, testing, seeing what works, what doesn't and for me, it's exciting. I'm learning, getting better.

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Re: Can signing up with the right leader gurantee you anything ?

Postby neisha simpson on Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:56 pm

brotherkaleem wrote:Upline whoever is no guarantee of your success.

The only thing standing between you and your goals is you... and your goals.

Love that quote kaleem
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Re: Can signing up with the right leader gurantee you anything ?

Postby neisha simpson on Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:33 pm

thedarkroom wrote:There was one thing that really helped when tough time kicked in with sponsoring and selling..

My wife would say, "No sales, no one sponsored?"
I'd reply, "It's ok. It's meant to happen that way for a while."
"What you mean?" She'd ask.
"I'm learning. No sales and no sponsoring, helps me figure out the answer. Just got to learn, keep trying till I find the answer.."

That's how it is.

It really helped thinking that way and helped to not take anything personal. Not yes, no, and all that.

Instead, it was about, "to get better. To master this part and then this part."

In doing so, I kept a journal, writing notes down and I'd email it to my team. This became like a manual called "How to Get Your Prospect To Take You Seriously."

When I started the journal, something happened in my mind. It became exciting. Like an adventure. To figure out how to do it, and unravelling the mysteries of people skills, recruiting, duplication, sales, develop team.

So, when we do it, with a mindset of, 'I'll get better, I'm learning. It's ok. That's where everyone started," it helps mentally, toughns us as well emotionally.

I'm doing same now online. Writing journal, going through each step, testing, seeing what works, what doesn't and for me, it's exciting. I'm learning, getting better.

Adam Taha

Adams your so right , these tips will definitely work .
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Re: Can signing up with the right leader gurantee you anything ?

Postby Natasha Nassar Hazlett on Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:52 pm

Great question and some fantastic responses!

I don't think that you HAVE to have the "right leader" to succeed. My former upline not only didn't know ANYTHING about Internet Marketing, he actively told me that it wouldn't work! And even if it did work...no one else could do it!

I proved him wrong! But it's like what someone said earlier- you don't need a leader to succeed- if you're the only one, for example, who markets online in your company- fine! (I was one of the first in my former company) just go out there and study up and become the leader who you were looking for!

On the flip side, there are people who think, ok, I joined with a Guru, so I'm guaranteed success. Ummm...No you arent'!

You've got to WORK HARD to be successful.

But joining with the right leader can help, if they're willing to mentor you. This can seriously shorten your learning curve- and that's the main value in joining with "the right leader". If you join with the "right leader" and they aren't willing to train you, then you'll just have to teach yourself...

To sum it up...in my opinion, the one sure-bet to success is joining with the Right Leader who is wiling to train you, and then consistently implementing what you learn.

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Re: Can signing up with the right leader gurantee you anything ?

Postby Michael Novak on Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:20 pm

Hey everyon,

Yesterday on my TV show I covered Neisha's question with my audience. Check out the recording here at BetterNetworker (http://www.betternetworker.com/videos/view/marketing/missing-link-premier-episode).

I hope it helps answer your question. Leave me a comment under the recording to let me know if it helped and any other thoughts that you might have.

And if you have the chance, you can catch me live tonight 4PM PST or 7PM EST at http://www.michaelnovak.me/live
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