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Re: Can't Believe This Is Legal...

Postby Matt Sandifer on Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:53 pm

John T.S. Murphy wrote:
I'm sorry if people click on this thread and waste 5 seconds on something they're not interested in, but I promise you the opportunity is worth it. If you're experienced with MLM then it should be a no-brainer...if you market other products successfully there's really no way you can lose. If you, however, choose to continue selling tupperware containers or whichever product you do sell, that's perfectly fine and your choice. I'm certainly not forcing anyone to join nor am I posting any links, I'm simply providing an opportunity for anyone to get involved in something I've found success with. Two smart people on this forum already have. Isn't that the idea?


Bro,

Here is the issue. This is a discussion forum. Not a place to directly make a pitch at people in the forum. My guess is you ARE NOT involved in other forums. Because any legit forum bands spam b/c it rude the forums culture.

People do business with people they know and trust. They do not do business with people because they sell "e-cigs." More importantly, when you keep pressing this issue you are loose even more ground in the credibility. As someone who has literally sponsor 100's of people from forums, this ploy NEVER WORKS!

Be bull head, call everyone stupid, keep up with the great promotion in this forum, and NOT MAKE ANY MONEY FOR THE TIME YOU HAVE SPENT HERE!


Ok,

That's your opinion and a pretty uninformed one at that. For your information I own a few forums myself and am a respected member on many others.

I "loose" even more ground when I press the issue? I'm simply supporting my business and the fact that I am NOT spamming here...check your email spam folder...that's what spam is. I'm introducing something that people can benefit from. I have gotten several PMs from people so...yeah...it does work.

I'm sorry for trying to help people make money...forgot that's not what business is about...right.

Thanks to the people who have made a good decision and got involved with this.
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Re: Can't Believe This Is Legal...

Postby Jason Fontain on Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:15 am

I have been looking for a way to get into this market. I actually was going to order a shipment from overseas. I see the demand for this is going to be huge. This is MLM Affiliate for just electronic cigarettes?
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Re: Can't Believe This Is Legal...

Postby Matt Sandifer on Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:13 am

Jasf wrote:I have been looking for a way to get into this market. I actually was going to order a shipment from overseas. I see the demand for this is going to be huge. This is MLM Affiliate for just electronic cigarettes?


Jasf - PM'd you.

Yes this is an MLM affiliate just for e-cigarettes.

I would actually suggest against importing these because then you would have to deal with many things that would cause some headaches such as importing them into the country (customs can be difficult), having to ship the physical product out yourself, and of course you'd take on full responsibility for the product.

and yes the demand is already huge for these.
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Re: Can't Believe This Is Legal...

Postby Sheri Weaver on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:24 am

Hi Jasf,

Bananahands is right. The market is already huge because so many people are looking for a way to get healthier and struggling with this bad habit. Also the many smoking bans and now the raised tax on cigarettes is playing into our favor as well.

I know a few people that have bought other brands and have been disappointed for the main reason of not being able to get good customer service. Our corporate office is based in Irvine, CA and I meet with the founders weekly! They are awesome! It’s nice to have the company in your backyard versus who knows where overseas!

And we are the only MLM company to offer these which also makes it nice. Even people not interested in starting a home based business are finding that as they use these out in public, when people ask them about it, they can hand them a business card, send them to their replicated website and the company does the rest and sends them a check the following week. When people can improve their health and the health of those around them, and get paid for something they are already doing everyday, it is a no-brainer. No other e-cig company offers that.

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Re: Can't Believe This Is Legal...

Postby Mark Fuller on Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:00 pm

Waseem Mirza wrote:Hi,
Congrats on your new found success but like John has said what you are doing is not allowed here.

People come here to learn and help each other, we don't promote our businesses.
Good luck anyhow...

Wassem, I could see how people could see the poster's message as SPAM but those who promote attraction marketing have wrote messages that are very similar. Yet, no one calls it SPAM. I am not saying that you are wrong, but I do get sick and tired of hearing about attraction marketing in several posts on this board. You are NOT guilty of this, but I just wanted to share this with you.
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Re: Can't Believe This Is Legal...

Postby Brett Slansky on Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:23 am

I think that most people are overacting on your post. I am very happy you have found great business opportunity for you.

Keep up your success rate and don't let anyone steal your dreams.

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Re: Can't Believe This Is Legal...

Postby Joyce Penner on Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:50 am

You are in business and that is great. You're promoting it. And I think what some people forget is that we are not just network marketers we are also people. People with problems, addictions etc. If one person signed up to buy your e-cigarettes - you will have helped one person. If someone posted a weight loss product or diet and it helped one network marketer live longer to enjoy the wealth they are creating - that's cool too. You get my drift.

However the suggestion that maybe there should be a category for just those type of offers has some validity. That way if we, network marketers, as just regular people want to shop from each other that would be the best win-win situation of all.

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Re: Can't Believe This Is Legal...

Postby al king on Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:44 pm

CarolinaM wrote:Hmm... doesn't look as spammy as other people to me, I mean he didn't even post a single link!

and I think it's a really interesting and innovative product and an excellent example of lateral marketing! :D

cheers,

Caro


This is one of the Biggest problems With Spam.

I've whitnessed it over the years on Many Boards; People don't agree on things.

Muslims and Christians Both praise God, but one group calls Him Allah -- One thinks Mohammed was 'the prophet' and Jesus was 'just a man' - while the other believes Jesus was not only "The" prophet, but also the son of God.

One person's Idea of spam, is not Spam to someone else.... but this is the problem when you allow "Community Members" to make this decision on their own.

Lots of people get it wrong; I say, how can anything Related to Network Marketing, on a Board About Network Marketing be considered spam??

Spam doesn't come down to what works; Spam relates to UnRelated Material.

Posting about Pornography, or How to Sue your Job, or how to Get a Job - would be spam; Telling us to click here and we'll win $1 Million Dollars - is Spam.

However, no matter how eloquently I write this, there are people who's Minds will NOT change, and will continue to view what this guy did, As Spam.

Consider this the "cons" of free-speech, which is Wonderful to have -- but it means people are allowed to say absolutely anything. ... And don't give them "Power" !! ...

It's been proven that when you give Ordinary people Moderation Powers in groups like these, most have Literally NO Leadership or Moderation Experience Whatsoever. They just so happen to be more Active than other members, so the Founder who needs people to Help keep folks in line, appoints them with Moderator Powers -- and often due to their inexperience, they abuse those powers and end up Ruining the community altogether.

I've seen this happen Numerous times, on Numerous boards, of Numerous subjects and topics; Because I have been "internet marketing" and socializing online since 1995.

I even look at Yahoo, for example - some of you who use Automated Systems to find, and sort interested parties in your business (websites with capture pages, auto responders, etc..) notice that your emails land in people's Spam Folders. Why?

Silly reasons, such as, your Server sent a Bulk Email ... so "it must be spam"

Nevermind that people signed up for and REQUESTED information.

Oh, but you know what else happens?

Often people who REQUEST Information, forget, and when they finally check their email they write to you "Take me off this list I didn't ask for this SPAM!!"

...

More realities of living in our Modern Society; where Technology tends to be more advanced than the people using it.

just my 5 cents ...
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Re: Can't Believe This Is Legal...

Postby Adam Holland on Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:12 pm

ozWeb2 wrote:SPAM :lol:


haha greg - that's freakin' hysterical...

you beat me to it ;-)
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