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[Nathan Conner Company: Numis Network Contribution Level: 2]

In the Network Marketing Industry I have seen three types of business builders:

1.Those who treat their business like a hobby. These people don’t get any results.
2.Those who like to keep their marketing inexpensive and duplicable. They don’t drive their team as wide and fast, but they drive their teams deeper over time, IF they are getting results.
3.Those who will invest more in themselves and their business too drive bigger and better results. They drive their teams wide, getting much faster results, sometimes getting less duplication depending on their target market.

I recommend building the business in a way you can can afford, time-wise and money-wise. Find a system that works, and follow it too the nail. Then offer your team a variety of different marketing strategies/systems so they can pick and choose the one’s that best fits their situation and budget.

Regardless of whether you are building your business online or offline. The bottom line is; how targeted are your leads. how many leads are you getting each day. and how many are you calling and converting into reps and customers. Problem is, some people let being cheap, keep them broke. You know what Robert Kiyosaki thinks about being cheap.

[Harry Fassett Contribution Level: 4]

Good point Nathan, and I would like to elaborate on it.

If you don't have the money to really get a scalable business up and running and to sustain it's growth, you are kidding yourself period. Many are kidding themselves thinking just their time and the right tools are going to do the trick, and maybe to sum extent they are right, but to make a full time income even close to six figures a year, you have to spend a lot more time and money than the other 90% to be on top 90% most of the time.

It's just basic common horse sense, thee who has the fastest vehicle with the most resources to win with all things being pretty much equal, wins 99.999% of the time.

So in other words, you need all the resources you can muster time and money wise that is, to win sooner rather than much later if at all, and most don't so most fail period.

There is so much competition online nowadays, just spending one's time to build a business on it to make a full time income of say even 40K a year is a monumental task even for a seasoned professional in business, marketing and sales, let alone being an amateur or novice at best like most are online trying to "make it" as they say.

Plus the worst part, I see most doing the same thing for days, months and even years with little or nothing to show for it, because they are unwilling to invest in the seminar, or real serious personal one on one mentoring and follow basic directions. They go about what they are doing thinking everything will eventually work it's self out. It may or may not, but most likely not.

Again, it's the denial that's the hardest thing to break, once that is done, one can truly listen and learn from those that are making it online and offline and most that do make it by the way are making it because they are marketing online and offline and there are very few exceptions to that rule from what I've seen over the years, and I've been online since 1995, so I've seen more than most. snackhealthysnacks

[Stephen Meyer Company: Organo Gold, Inc. Contribution Level: 3]

I don't think having enough money has anything to do with a person either making it or failing in a Network Marketing business. Actually you can have all the money you would need and still fail. The key is your skills. To many people focus on the results and not on where they are at right now. Self assessment is the first step in building a business. Once you have done that learning the Professional skills that you must have but are lacking is the second step. Applying those skills is the next step.

No skills, no business.

I'll ask this question. How many top MLM producers started from dead broke and deep in debt then built mega businesses? How did they start?

[Harry Fassett Contribution Level: 4]

I hate to say it, but wrong Stephen. You need at least some money, and a person that has a lot of money more than likely made it in business and not working a job. So it's very miss-leading to say skills alone are enough and all things being equal, skill wise that is, the one with the bigger "cash war chest" wins.

Just look at our military, we have the best brains, tools and weapons because we pay for them, not the other way around. End of story. Plus I really get tired of people (not necessarily you Stephen and not pointing fingers) telling me what they know which is usually a lot of air, because their results (which are usually little or none) don't back their "game" and results.

As far as skills, well the only business skills one really needs, in Network Marketing anyway, are people skills, being able to pick up the phone, call and listen to people over the phone and ask scripted questions, then edify their sponsor, and have their team help get the new prospect signed up.

As for leads? Simple, buy some to start for practice, along with a script book (Dani Johnson, Snackhealthy provides one for Distributors, or any other good phone script book just for the industry), and there are a lot of good sources with reasonable lead costs (I know one myself) and post simple signs locally, and they work for RE agents, divorce lawyers and for me, so what big huge skills do you need in this industry and business other that what I've stated, and learning how to follow simple instructions on how to make the sale? Anyway, enough said.

You still need some money Stephen, and you don't necessarily have to have much skill to get it, other than be desperate enough to get to work and ask for money and sales and whatever you need to get started. But again, without money and cash flow you are going nowhere, and again, you don't need huge business skills to go and get something if you need or want it bad enough and are desperate and must get it going or else.

Everybody starts with some skills, but not everybody is cut out for business either, because they don't or are unwilling to create the "mindset" needed for business and it's tough being in business for yourself initially with or without skills, but some money and stability does make a huge difference for one to learn without the stress and pressure of being "under the gun" all the time to produce results, but then again that's usually what gets results, not a too laid back attitude about getting results.

I don't think having enough money has anything to do with a person either making it or failing in a Network Marketing business. Actually you can have all the money you would need and still fail. The key is your skills. To many people focus on the results and not on where they are at right now. Self assessment is the first step in building a business. Once you have done that learning the Professional skills that you must have but are lacking is the second step. Applying those skills is the next step.

No skills, no business.

I'll ask this question. How many top MLM producers started from dead broke and deep in debt then built mega businesses? How did they start?

[Stephen Meyer Company: Organo Gold, Inc. Contribution Level: 3]

Well Harry, I can say this. When I look at what it takes to become successful I look at people who are actually successful. I choose not to look at people who make that claim and have nothing to prove it by ( not saying you or pointing fingers) except their continued telling people how successful they are. Far to many of the truly successful and well known marketers started with nothing and built massive wealth. They did it by using the skills thy learned. Either that is how they did or they are lying, my bet is its true. Successful marketers teach skill building as a fundamental part of business building. No skills, no business.

Have you ever read Dani Johnson's story? Started flat broke living out of a car. She put hand Written ads on telephone poles. Built her skills and her fortune. Same kind of story for many of the top producers.

No doubt a person has to have a little money, at least enough to buy product.

[Nathan Conner Company: Numis Network Contribution Level: 2]

The skill of an entrepreneur comes from his/her ability to mobilize these resources.

1. Land (Real Estate, and now in my opinion, Internet Space)
2. Labor (the entrepreneur's labor and outsourced labor, both intellectual and physical)
3. Capital (Debt and Equity)

At any given point in time their are trends to capitalize on in the marketplace. As people become better entrepreneurs, they are able to mobilize these resources more quickly and effectively. The more effective one is at mobilizing resources, the more money they are able to make because they can put all the pieces together more quickly on top of the trend.

The #3 network marketer has the ability to mobilize capital more effectively then #2, for one reason or another. They are able to gain the skills much faster because they are investing in themselves and their business. They are able to capitalize on a trend more efficiently.

# 2 may or may not have the money to invest in him/herself. Depends. Some people are so reluctant to take a course or seminar in order to become more valuable, they never grow themselves, nor do they grow their business. Some people just flat out can't afford it and have to slowly build their business.

Here is an excerpt from a book titled "Treasury of Quotes" by Jim Rohn. It kind of relates

The title is: "Success is Easy"

People often ask me how I became successful in that six year period of time while many of the people I knew did not. The answer is simple. The things I found to be easy to do, they found to be easy not to do. I found it easy to set goals, that could change my life. They found it easy not to do. I found it easy to ready books that could affect my thinking and ideas. They found that easy not to do. I found it easy to attend the classes and seminars, and to get around other successful people. They said it probably wouldn't matter. If I had to sum it up, I would say what I found easy to do, they found to be easy not to do. Six years later, I am a millionaire, and they are still blaming the economy, the government, and company policies, yet they neglected to do the basic, easy things.

[Harry Fassett Contribution Level: 4]

Yep Stephen, and I've been to a few of her Seminars here in LA, and have a few of her materials, and no, she wasn't flat broke, she had $2.08 cents to her name, and then got a job as a waitress really quick to make even more money, and her first sale was over a payphone (which you need money to put in to make a call, plus she still had her car - another asset for business) in Hawaii and she did other odd sales jobs and made even more money. Then she started to really build her own Network Marketing Business and even had her own MLM at one time, so I know the whole deal Stephen.

I've been listening and following Dani since 2004, and still get on her Monday Night call most of the time, so does that answer your question? Besides, I've made tens of thousands of dollars (net, net ) over the years using just what I've learned from Dani. Really, and still do today with my SEO/SEM business, and now working SH because "timing is everything" - Bobby Fischer

Well Harry, I can say this. When I look at what it takes to become successful I look at people who are actually successful. I choose not to look at people who make that claim and have nothing to prove it by ( not saying you or pointing fingers) except their continued telling people how successful they are. Far to many of the truly successful and well known marketers started with nothing and built massive wealth. They did it by using the skills thy learned. Either that is how they did or they are lying, my bet is its true. Successful marketers teach skill building as a fundamental part of business building. No skills, no business.

Have you ever read Dani Johnson's story? Started flat broke living out of a car. She put hand Written ads on telephone poles. Built her skills and her fortune. Same kind of story for many of the top producers.

No doubt a person has to have a little money, at least enough to buy product.

[Stephen Meyer Company: Organo Gold, Inc. Contribution Level: 3]

What's most interesting in this day and age is it takes very little Capitol to invest in yourself. The Internet has a wealth of information available that wasn't there a few years ago.

With the right skills you can take $5.00 and turn it into $20. And $20 into $100 in no time at all. Of course skills are learned when you invest in yourself.

[Luanne Crawford Company: Herbalife International of America, Inc. Contribution Level: 4]

Great topic, with building as the key word. I believe it takes a myriad of ever evolving consistent actions, systems, interactions, and leveraging. Building starts with commitment. Then comes the foundation, then the infrastructure, which is often a blog. Building requires tools, resources and current information on Internet marketing, like reading posts in forums like Betternetworker and LinkedIn, to keep the momentum going. As I test duplicatable systems on an ongoing basis, I maintain contact with downline who are working, to help them also implement ways to grow their businesses. Local search marketing has also been an important part of my building process.

[Harry Fassett Contribution Level: 4]

Very well put Nathan, but I don't see coin collecting as a trend, and if you are doing it for investment reasons, they are a horrible investment and this isn't me speaking, just do your research. I used to work for a numis coin business and they were sharks to say the least and very good at selling them and they basically "slam dunked" people to buy them, so I see the coin and coin collecting business as that of a used car salesmen, but anyway, that's from my direct experience in the business.

Plus the coin I have left from numis is a MS70 2010 Silver Eagle and you can see it online at ebay. I tried to sell it for $69.00 bucks just recently and no go, and I bought it for $106.00 in 2010 so not too good if you ask me. You can also see it here on BN at: http://www.betternetworker.com/blogs/vi ... atic-coins And as far as the five year buy back policy, the Co knows most people will just lick their wounds and move on and not return the coins, so it's a very safe guarantee for them. Anyway...

It's 100 times better investment just to buy from goldsilver.com and just pay the commission of 1 to 5% and buy the real face value of the gold or silver. With that, the trend is, not supplements (too many in the MLM/Network Marketing industry now and way over saturated with dealers selling the same products at the same prices) so where is the momentum for a new or recent distributor? Right, little or none. And I could be wrong, but definitely not coins (your way in the whole to begin with, but why start that way when one doesn't have to), or many of the online only businesses, it's healthy eating and healthy snacking from my very well researched opinion.

Michelle obama talked about it, and it that isn't a hint where the trend is, I don't know what is, and I live in LA where we are usually, 99.99 % of the time anyway, way ahead of the curve, and this is it. Simple healthy snacks, and what is there to explain? Nothing. Go up to anybody on the street, say 10 people and ask them what a numis coin is?

Then ask them if they know what healthy and tasty snacks are. I would say 99.999% would not know what a Numis coin is, but 99.9999% will know exactly what a healthy and tasty snack is, and besides, as it is stated, "...one day a piece of bread will buy gold...." meaning everybody needs food, water, shelter and everything else are pretty much wants or added unto us so to speak. HF P.S. Besides, who's feeding the children in this industry with healthy food snack alternatives? Snackhealthy is that's who.

The skill of an entrepreneur comes from his/her ability to mobilize these resources.

1. Land (Real Estate, and now in my opinion, Internet Space)
2. Labor (the entrepreneur's labor and outsourced labor, both intellectual and physical)
3. Capital (Debt and Equity)

At any given point in time their are trends to capitalize on in the marketplace. As people become better entrepreneurs, they are able to mobilize these resources more quickly and effectively. The more effective one is at mobilizing resources, the more money they are able to make because they can put all the pieces together more quickly on top of the trend.

The #3 network marketer has the ability to mobilize capital more effectively then #2, for one reason or another. They are able to gain the skills much faster because they are investing in themselves and their business. They are able to capitalize on a trend more efficiently.

# 2 may or may not have the money to invest in him/herself. Depends. Some people are so reluctant to take a course or seminar in order to become more valuable, they never grow themselves, nor do they grow their business. Some people just flat out can't afford it and have to slowly build their business.

Here is an excerpt from a book titled "Treasury of Quotes" by Jim Rohn. It kind of relates

The title is: "Success is Easy"

People often ask me how I became successful in that six year period of time while many of the people I knew did not. The answer is simple. The things I found to be easy to do, they found to be easy not to do. I found it easy to set goals, that could change my life. They found it easy not to do. I found it easy to ready books that could affect my thinking and ideas. They found that easy not to do. I found it easy to attend the classes and seminars, and to get around other successful people. They said it probably wouldn't matter. If I had to sum it up, I would say what I found easy to do, they found to be easy not to do. Six years later, I am a millionaire, and they are still blaming the economy, the government, and company policies, yet they neglected to do the basic, easy things.