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Re: iJango

Postby Candy Buck on Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:56 pm

A wise man once told me that a picture was worth a thousand words. He also told me that beware the photographer. You can rent clothes, cars, homes, friends and hotel conference rooms. You can't rent bank accounts. $20.00 per month for the webpage? That's $240 per year. What a ripoff.......who is the webmaster? Oh yeah, they make you keep iJango in the name. Thank God this guy has not graduated to politics!
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Re: iJango

Postby Steve Wood on Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:43 pm

Just a couple of thoughts here and a comment.

A few years back, my brother joined Ignite Energy (MLM) in Texas and I remember reading a lot of comments just like the negative ones on this subject. Some people were so rude, they called people stupid who got involved in Ignite. They called it an illegal scam as well. Now my brother is laughing all the way to the bank as he is making what he calls "a life changing" amount of money. The point here is that sometimes those who seem to know everything and how to advise everyone may not always be right.

Now if you know Steve Smith, Chairman of the Board of iJango, who was the founder of Excel Communication, you might stop and ask yourself a few questions. Since Excel was a MLM, don't you think Steve would know what constitutes a legal MLM?

I realize there are always opposing view points on things like this and I don't have a problem with that. I just hope everyone stays civil with their opinion and time will tell who is right and who is wrong.
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Re: iJango

Postby M OSullivan on Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:54 pm

Interesting,

I was thinking the same thing, as if Steve didn't learn from Excel, after all, FTC was chasing him for years over headhunter coding, which is illegal, but having enough lawyers on deck could only hold off regulators for so long, and this is why they pulled the plug on Excel, so makes you wonder why he is using the same basic plan as I see it. Coding bonus on headhunting is the same, you sell a useless portal and you earn commissions on it and the useless affiliate rebates is similar to the small residuals reps earned on phone services. Simply put, it is the same deal, so in my opinion, nothing has changed, and with all the hype, I doubt it is a long term game plan.

I have nothing against Steve Smith, but the bottom line is he walked away with millions, and the reps all got screwed, so who would follow a quitter is my question? As to Sharpe, egads, do a little background on him and you will be shocked, I won't post it hear, but it is pretty easy to dig up on the internet, so sorry ijango reps, I don't feel you are going to be happy campers in the end, but I wish you all well, I know how people will follow the hype of money, but in a few months when nothing happens, as is often the case, attrition starts to eat away at program which is the main reason most companies fail, just as his previous few did. Without true verifiable value being offered, in a recession you don't have a prayer to succeed in any home business.

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Re: iJango

Postby David Gibson on Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:34 pm

FTC was chasing him for years over headhunter coding, which is illegal, but having enough lawyers on deck could only hold off regulators for so long, and this is why they pulled the plug on Excel


There's a old saying that everyone has entitled to it's own opinion about MLM but they're not entitled to his/her own facts. but If that was the case Fundraiser, then Excel would've been shut down a long time ago, don't you think? BTW, when Steve left Excel, he didn't left of his own according because the new owner at the VarTec, decided to changed the comp plan for the worse. That along with the Telecom competition along with several ownership changes put the kabosh on Excel as far as an a MLM company is concern.

Now, those so-called 'headhunter' coded bonuses that Steve thought up is now standard in most of the MLM Industry and it's more popular than ever before.

As to Sharpe, egads, do a little background on him and you will be shocked


Everyone make mistakes in their lives, Like the Billy Joel song said; 'Don't forget your Second Wind'. What if someone dug about you when you're down and out like Cameron was. What would you do? Word of Advice Fundraiser; Do not prejudge anyone...Walk a mile in their shoes and you'll understand.


so sorry ijango reps, I don't feel you are going to be happy campers in the end, but I wish you all well, I know how people will follow the hype of money, but in a few months when nothing happens, as is often the case, attrition starts to eat away at program which is the main reason most companies fail, just as his previous few did.


What if you're wrong...What if this Ijango opportunity REALLY WORKS? Signing customers up for a FREE web portal and getting paid everytime when they surf the net, going on social sites and go shopping? Yeah, well iGoogle do it, My Yahoo has it. It not revolution. Well when the last time those companies pays you for setting their web portal and surf it?

Talking about Ignoramous. :lol:

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Re: iJango

Postby Brent Worley on Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:59 pm

A few thoughts here:

1. Coded bonuses are not "head-hunting bonuses." Companies have the right to pay bonuses for gathering legitimate customers who purchase a product/service from them.

2. Herein lies the problem with iJango. It takes $0 in revenue generated for the company in order for the codes to be paid. I read over the comp plan and laughed: These guys are getting paid to sell nothing! Literally!

So here's what is going to happen in the real world:

Bob pays his $149 for iJango. He gets his wife, his dog, his pet goldfish, and whatever else he can find to sign-up as "free customers" since, well, its free. Now he is going to have his bonus released to him.

The company made $49 from him signing up and paid out $100 without taking in any revenue from a customer. Anyone else see what's wrong with this?

Personally, I love the coded bonus model. But this smells rotten. Seems like a plan driven to recruit only and never sell real products/services. Too much hype surrounding it, too little substance to the company.
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Re: iJango

Postby David Gibson on Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:03 am

BrentWorley wrote:A few thoughts here:

1. Coded bonuses are not "head-hunting bonuses." Companies have the right to pay bonuses for gathering legitimate customers who purchase a product/service from them.

2. Herein lies the problem with iJango. It takes $0 in revenue generated for the company in order for the codes to be paid. I read over the comp plan and laughed: These guys are getting paid to sell nothing! Literally!

So here's what is going to happen in the real world:

Bob pays his $149 for iJango. He gets his wife, his dog, his pet goldfish, and whatever else he can find to sign-up as "free customers" since, well, its free. Now he is going to have his bonus released to him.

The company made $49 from him signing up and paid out $100 without taking in any revenue from a customer. Anyone else see what's wrong with this?

Personally, I love the coded bonus model. But this smells rotten. Seems like a plan driven to recruit only and never sell real products/services. Too much hype surrounding it, too little substance to the company.


Brent

I understand your skepticism with Ijango and what they do. I can tell you 3 myths about Ijango and why myths are debunked

1) Is not SkyBiz (Saw your message posted on MLM.com forum); they don't do educational websites.

2) It is not like Alladvantage and Allango where you download a toolbar, which leads to...

3) It is a web portal (like igoogle or MyYahoo), where people has their home page and can surf, download music, go to social sites like Facebook, twitter and others).

Here's a main question for you Brent. First, I was VERY skeptical just like you when I took a look at this thing. And I wondered where does the revenue comes from for Ijango reps to make money? Answer: It comes from the advertisers and sponsor links that you see on almost webpages. Do you know that Google made $5billion dollars in the past six months when people click on those web pages with search engines, When you do a free search with Google, Yahoo, Bing, somebody is making money from it. When someone uses Facebook or Myspace, when you watch a video on YouTube or when you Tweet, somebody is making money or someone shops online, WE GET PAID!! And not a few bucks, but recession-proof billions of dollars every year. The man behind Ijango is Steve Smith (co founder of Excel) and his son Rayner is the CEO of the company.

If you like to find out more about Ijango, click here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsH4v_-Qr54

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Re: iJango

Postby Brent Worley on Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:09 am

Right, but Google made that much money because they are the dominate leader in search engine traffic. iJango will make nowhere near that amount, ever, based on traffic alone.

And I think you fail to see what SkyBiz was. It was a shopping portal. You bought the portal, you supposedly made money when people shopped at your portal (but no one other than the portal owner ever did), and you made money from the sales of other portals.

iJango is no different in this regard with the exception of traffic. And that will result in such a small residual that it will be irrelevant.

Again, the part that bothers me about the entire plan is that "customers" are free with iJango. They do not have to generate any revenue for the company in order for the bonuses to be released. Classic money game scenario.

Coded bonuses are great, but are only legit when revenue is generated from product sales is what releases the bonus. "Free" does not generate revenue.

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Re: iJango

Postby Chris Tryon on Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:24 am

I don't know if iJango is a scam, but what I DO know is that a bunch of people that were involved with that company just migrated over to my company last week. We experienced record growth in a single week!
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Re: iJango

Postby Mike Dillard on Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:28 am

No one is going to buy anything from these personal "shopping portals" to ever make it worth anyone's trouble. That concept has failed over and over again for 10 years. Yes... YOU may buy stuff from your own portal because you'll think it's cool to do, but you'll never have a group of loyal customers who will do the same, which means the only people who really benefit from this feature, are the owners of IJango who get an over-ride on every purchase made in the system.

You're talking about changing someone's daily habits when it comes to their social media lives, and buying.

That's the hardest thing in the world to do, and the only people who will actually take an interest and follow through with those two hurdles, are distributors because they paid money to do so.

In addition, there's nothing proprietary in the IJango system that can't be duplicated, improved upon, and then offered for FREE, by someone else. The moment that happens, (and it will), the company goes under.

I don't want to rain on people's parades here, but I feel obligated to speak up, because I know what's going to happen.

This will be a fun little gimmick of an opportunity for some people, but if you're planning to quit your job and pay your mortgage with this for years to come, it would be extremely foolish.

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Re: iJango

Postby Jeff Mitchell on Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:42 pm

Regardess of scheme, thousands of people are going to join, thousands of people are going to get mad and quit, (notice I did not say fail) thousand of people are going to make some money, and down the road thousands are people are going to be left broke.

It has happened time and time again, and will continue to do so for the rest of time untill people really start to examine the future potential of a business, instead of the hyped up corporate video that they watched before they hit the "Join Now" button.

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