Man, my mind was "boggled" by the content in this thread.
In response to the original poster...
Saturation doesn't exist AT ALL when your branding
and marketing yourself, skills, talent and personality.
How can you over-saturate yourself? business is and
will always be abundant to you.
Even if you so much as create your own system,
and promote a secondary system to other struggling
marketers, you will do much better for yourself. I've
seen numerous examples of this.
Saturation exists when so many starting marketers
take the ultimate "shortcut" to success online buying
into various "generic system" businesses.
So many people just want "everything" done for them.
That makes him reliable on the systems success to
see results. That is dangerous.
It takes guts to learn how to write your own auto-re
sponders, sales copy, create your own squeeze pages
and so on.
At some point, if you get to comfortable using a generic
system and you start to feel like something's holding you
back from going to the next level.
It just may be your time to say"sayenora" and set your
own sails.
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Josef Benjamin
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Re: IS SATURATION EFFECTING THE LEAD GENERATION AREA?
Tom,
I'll keep this thread going a bit longer...Saturation is a great choice of wording in your question as it brings up a lot of emotion for folks. There are just too many people for their to be saturation, if you handle your links correctly. Even if you and 1000 others link to Dillards MS capture pages..here's where you create uniqueness. You first create a homepage that is unique to you..this is a page for your "You, Inc." Isn't that what branding yourself is all about. Then you can offer links to MS or Renegade U. or others within your page. Lastly, if someone comes through your system, then you call them. You make contact. You create a relationship and instantly you are no longer one of the crowd.
Just my two cents...
I'll keep this thread going a bit longer...Saturation is a great choice of wording in your question as it brings up a lot of emotion for folks. There are just too many people for their to be saturation, if you handle your links correctly. Even if you and 1000 others link to Dillards MS capture pages..here's where you create uniqueness. You first create a homepage that is unique to you..this is a page for your "You, Inc." Isn't that what branding yourself is all about. Then you can offer links to MS or Renegade U. or others within your page. Lastly, if someone comes through your system, then you call them. You make contact. You create a relationship and instantly you are no longer one of the crowd.
Just my two cents...
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hi,
i see my post about making a quick buck upset a few people. I'd like to apologize for that. I know it's great for newbs to make a quick buck and it boosts morale. I didn't mean it exactly like that.
anyways, see y'all later.
i see my post about making a quick buck upset a few people. I'd like to apologize for that. I know it's great for newbs to make a quick buck and it boosts morale. I didn't mean it exactly like that.
anyways, see y'all later.
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Marius Lombaard
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I believe most newbies are like you said, hammering each other with affiliate sites, because that is now the name of the game! Where else are you going to make big bucks right away? Traditional MLM isn't going to provide it.
The real way to use Better Networker is to get to KNOW people and become friends. You have to make an effort here. This isn't a forum of "folks crawling out from underneath the rock" who've never heard of Network Marketing! Many of us have been doing this for quite some time. Me? 13 years of old school, stuff I wish I never came in contact with, and now NEW SCHOOL. I guess you CAN teach an old dog new tricks. I'm slowly crawling onto the Web 2.0 bandwagon here, so be patient with me folks!
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The real way to use Better Networker is to get to KNOW people and become friends. You have to make an effort here. This isn't a forum of "folks crawling out from underneath the rock" who've never heard of Network Marketing! Many of us have been doing this for quite some time. Me? 13 years of old school, stuff I wish I never came in contact with, and now NEW SCHOOL. I guess you CAN teach an old dog new tricks. I'm slowly crawling onto the Web 2.0 bandwagon here, so be patient with me folks!
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Personally, I don't think too much about the possibility of saturation because I have a clear purpose for what my networking goals are.
Something to consider is the fact that even though we have been familiarized with Magnetic Sponsoring, not everyone thinks the same way.
Some people may not necessarily be posting all the links you see on their BN profile page for other BN members.
One of the most overlooked things about BN as a site is that it can serve as a calling card for people/prospects outside of BN to become familiar with who you are and the value you provide inside this platform.
Mask the link & throw it on your biz card, whatever. You get the point.
That adds even greater value to my referral however they revieve it, precisely BECAUSE there are so many other people who understand the viability of network marketing as an industry here on BN.
On page 100 of Robert Cialdini's book INFLUENCE it states...
We view a behavior as correct in a given situation to the degree that we see others performing it.
Think about how that might affect a prospects mind when they come in contact with this site for the first time and see so many different people, from all walks of life, in various companies all in pursuit of their time and personal freedom. Especially if they're a little hesitant about the industry.
And on top of that, they can see that YOU provide value to this community.
SOCIAL PROOF is powerful!
And me being worried about saturation is like me being worried that when I invite a prospect to BN that they'll end up joining someone elses opportunity rather than mine.
That's a fear based mindset I personally don't subscribe to.
On another note you said..
Two things...
1. I agree and maybe that's the best way to leverage your time in BN if you're trying to attract other networkers to you by the value you provide.
2. If you want to give BN members a way to get to know you outside of BN, and if comments are your greatest leverage points on BN, maybe a good idea is to make your sig links to your own personal blog or whatever as opposed to an affiliate site, landing page, ebook etc.
Really it's all in what you're doing and why. Don't trip off the small stuff too much.
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Something to consider is the fact that even though we have been familiarized with Magnetic Sponsoring, not everyone thinks the same way.
Some people may not necessarily be posting all the links you see on their BN profile page for other BN members.
One of the most overlooked things about BN as a site is that it can serve as a calling card for people/prospects outside of BN to become familiar with who you are and the value you provide inside this platform.
Mask the link & throw it on your biz card, whatever. You get the point.
That adds even greater value to my referral however they revieve it, precisely BECAUSE there are so many other people who understand the viability of network marketing as an industry here on BN.
On page 100 of Robert Cialdini's book INFLUENCE it states...
We view a behavior as correct in a given situation to the degree that we see others performing it.
Think about how that might affect a prospects mind when they come in contact with this site for the first time and see so many different people, from all walks of life, in various companies all in pursuit of their time and personal freedom. Especially if they're a little hesitant about the industry.
And on top of that, they can see that YOU provide value to this community.
SOCIAL PROOF is powerful!
And me being worried about saturation is like me being worried that when I invite a prospect to BN that they'll end up joining someone elses opportunity rather than mine.
That's a fear based mindset I personally don't subscribe to.
On another note you said..
I have found the "Comments" reveal better answers and real solutions, than one could ever imagine!
Two things...
1. I agree and maybe that's the best way to leverage your time in BN if you're trying to attract other networkers to you by the value you provide.
2. If you want to give BN members a way to get to know you outside of BN, and if comments are your greatest leverage points on BN, maybe a good idea is to make your sig links to your own personal blog or whatever as opposed to an affiliate site, landing page, ebook etc.
Really it's all in what you're doing and why. Don't trip off the small stuff too much.
Plan your work, work your plan. Key word being YOUR.
Love First..Love Last..Be Legendary!
Colin Taylor
http://twitter.com/Colin_Taylor follow me on Twitter, can't wait to see you
Love First..Love Last..Be Legendary!
Colin Taylor
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http://twitter.com/colin_taylor
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http://twitter.com/colin_taylor
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Colin
I have requested your freindship, i like the "cut of your jib" hun
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I have requested your freindship, i like the "cut of your jib" hun
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Well your are certainly right on target, I agree with all you said, Too many mentors. This is a niche areana, Specialists are required, and no body can be all things to all people. As I posted in your guest book, Its collective thinking that is true mentorship. That's why the comments in the posts are a gold mine of knowledge, more important than the post itself.!! Thanks again.
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davehayes wrote:I think I would agree with most of the last posters comments (sorry I have forgotten your name).
Saturation occcurs when everyone goes to the same place, posts the same ad, for the same product, because they didn't think to EDIT after COPYING & PASTING.
Direct Matches is a perfect example of this, its a cracking Business Social network site, but when you look at the posters in there, nearly everyone is promoting Spider Web Marketing.Theres nothing wrong with that, but for the ones that Brand themselves ,they have more luck than those that dont.
You also need to be original with your ad as well.
Dave
i am thankful that youi post that because I hope that other individuals who are a part of my system (MLM Leads System Pro) realize the same thing.
Most of us are here because we understand the concept of Magnetic Sponsoring and branding ourselves as an expert. But it gets tiring seeing everyone using the same landing page, the same default video and the same copy. It's like people just want a "cookie cutter" system without putting anytime and energy into themselves. I'm glad to see that someone else has noticed this same trend.
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Hi All,
This original question and the responses that follow say something about the perception of the industry as a whole...
In the current economic times in particular, with people experience loss of jobs or major cuts in income, a growing number turn to MLM and internet marketing as a way to close this income gap.
They're desperate perhaps, literally ignorant, and they turn to the first opportunity that sounds good. I think we can all understand that. And i think some (many?) of us might have done the same in our own early days - I know I did...
This question & thread is, for me, another piece of evidence that the home-based business concept is still not terribly professional - sure, there are pockets, great ones, yet so many people seem to agree that 95+% of starters in this game will fail to achieve the success they want...
So let's take every opportunity to educate the newcomer, to help them get some real clarity and focus about their situation and what they can do about it.
I don't think we'll cut much the level of activity referred to in the original post/question to this thread but I think we can soon learn to look past these unsophisticated attempts by the newbies to MLM, and focus on the 'good stuff'.
I've learned that even as I interact with other 'members of the choir' (I just LOVE that metaphor!) I find I get to sing 'better' and that attracts a crowd all of its own, from where, I do not know...!
Sticking with the singing metaphor for a moment longer, I'd like to share this little experience I had a few years ago. I was on a course with about 18 others, 3 days long. On the last afternoon a singing coach joined us. He got us all, who had never sung together before, most of us who had never sung at all in public, well, he got us all singing together beautifully, with full volume and confidence. It looked wonderful. It sounded wonderful. And it FELT wonderful. It was a real lift. It only takes one coach and a little time, plus being open to the new experience and to learn. I think there are many coaches here at BN.
A great thread - thank you all!
Cheers
Martin
This original question and the responses that follow say something about the perception of the industry as a whole...
In the current economic times in particular, with people experience loss of jobs or major cuts in income, a growing number turn to MLM and internet marketing as a way to close this income gap.
They're desperate perhaps, literally ignorant, and they turn to the first opportunity that sounds good. I think we can all understand that. And i think some (many?) of us might have done the same in our own early days - I know I did...
This question & thread is, for me, another piece of evidence that the home-based business concept is still not terribly professional - sure, there are pockets, great ones, yet so many people seem to agree that 95+% of starters in this game will fail to achieve the success they want...
So let's take every opportunity to educate the newcomer, to help them get some real clarity and focus about their situation and what they can do about it.
I don't think we'll cut much the level of activity referred to in the original post/question to this thread but I think we can soon learn to look past these unsophisticated attempts by the newbies to MLM, and focus on the 'good stuff'.
I've learned that even as I interact with other 'members of the choir' (I just LOVE that metaphor!) I find I get to sing 'better' and that attracts a crowd all of its own, from where, I do not know...!
Sticking with the singing metaphor for a moment longer, I'd like to share this little experience I had a few years ago. I was on a course with about 18 others, 3 days long. On the last afternoon a singing coach joined us. He got us all, who had never sung together before, most of us who had never sung at all in public, well, he got us all singing together beautifully, with full volume and confidence. It looked wonderful. It sounded wonderful. And it FELT wonderful. It was a real lift. It only takes one coach and a little time, plus being open to the new experience and to learn. I think there are many coaches here at BN.
A great thread - thank you all!
Cheers
Martin
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