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IS SATURATION EFFECTING THE LEAD GENERATION AREA?

Postby Guest on Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:16 am

I really love better networker. A phenominal place to meet quality people. However, as I try to delve into what a person is currently involved in, and click on their web sites, too often I find it is a masked URL to a training course I have seen 50 times before (and have taken LOL!). Are they preaching to the choir? Are these sites, becoming too saturated, too duplicated? Or is this just normal, due to the nature of the people, "NETWORKERS", within Better Networker. Please post you comments. I have found the "Comments" reveal better answers and real solutions, than one could ever imagine!
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Re: IS SATURATION EFFECTING THE LEAD GENERATION AREA?

Postby Marius Lombaard on Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:52 am

i understand what you mean.

i've found a lot of sponsored links on google since last year which all point to the affiliate links for something like magnetic sponsoring and so forth.

it's like the mlm industry is continuously flooded with newbies trying to make a buck or two selling some affiliate info product about mlm, some good, some bad. but then again, that's on the google side and most people looking for opportunities online will see that stuff for the first time.

it's just for us on this community site (or similar ones) that we find most people are advertising their affiliate links through their signature, and we are frustrated that everyone is selling the same thing we've already seen too many times. i'm not really convinced that it's a problem for us, if you want to investigate what someone is doing, invest time in the leaders instead.

The newbies are advertising through signature as well and it may (or may not) help them in their s.e.o. efforts.

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Re: IS SATURATION EFFECTING THE LEAD GENERATION AREA?

Postby Lee Riley on Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:37 am

I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw this. I have read and paid for and learned from several different systems and they were very valuable in my growth as a network and online marketer. But is was not until I took what was being said and with the help of my sponsor created a system that uses the tecniques taught by Mike and others as well as some things we came up with on our own that I really began to see any success.

I think you are right when it comes to this forum that often times we are preaching to the choir. Most of us are students of Mike and thus we all are using the same techniques to try and sell the same affiliate products.

My advice is to find a way to set yourself aside from everyone else. Be unique. And don't be afraid to ruffle some feathers. Those of you who have been around for the last month or so have seen that I am not afraid to speak my mind. Not everyone will agree with everything you say, but some will and when you align yourself with a few superstars you will become successful.
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Re: IS SATURATION EFFECTING THE LEAD GENERATION AREA?

Postby JonMarc Wright on Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:35 am

It would seem to me that if you are looking to the BetterNetworker crowd as potential leads, you are best of doing so with newer people. Sure, some will come here having already been around the block, but many are new to the attraction marketing concept, and need some guidance. Most may already have a business opportunity that they are with but that doesn't mean you can't share with each other, learn from each other, and benefit together, even in separate opportunities.

Otherwise I would say, and this is sort of an extension of the above anyway, that working together through Joint Ventures and other partnerships would likely be something you could hope for. As was mentioned already, aligning with the right people is one thing that can help you rise above. And align with doesn't necessarily mean sponsor.

And it doesn't necessarily mean work with in a JV or financial partnership kind of way either. I mentioned it, but that isn't the only mutually beneficial relationship out there. Just the interaction you can have with people who know what they are talking about can be priceless. Everyone has things to offer, everyone can add something. Forget about the capture pages, have fun with the people!

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Re: IS SATURATION EFFECTING THE LEAD GENERATION AREA?

Postby Jeff Mitchell on Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:46 am

I say HOoraY to every newbie or even experienced online entrepreneur that makes a quick buck with the MS programs. It is really quite amazing how many people are still not familiar with the concepts or even the name of Mikes Products. It is those newbies who are putting up PPC's to the programs that are building this community deeper and deeper. Plus with the system generated sites it allows people to really get to know how things work. Because it does not matter what site you are using, it is all about being able to generate traffic to it.
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Re: IS SATURATION EFFECTING THE LEAD GENERATION AREA?

Postby Connie Loeschen on Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:49 am

Merry Christmas all,
There are many people looking for a home business. I talk to people all over the world.
I am not having any trouble generating leads. I thought the holidays would slow things a bit, but the opposite seems to have happened. :o
I have never paid for any training, it has all been free. I still work full time, and I am building my business every spare moment I have. I am finding success, more than I ever dreamed. I am reaching my goals and I am having fun. I look to the future with great joy and anticipation. I wish each and everyone the success you deserve in the year 2009.
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Re: IS SATURATION EFFECTING THE LEAD GENERATION AREA?

Postby JonMarc Wright on Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:59 am

I think this post was initially talking about the people internal to this website. Nearly everyone has links in their forum signature, and a large majority are masks to whatever lead generation/training/etc. system they promote on the front end... which means if you start clicking links on everyone, you'll start landing on the same capture pages over and over again.

I could be wrong, but the first message seemed to me to be talking specifically about lead generation within betternetworker, not outside of it using other means.

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Re: IS SATURATION EFFECTING THE LEAD GENERATION AREA?

Postby Steve Rodgers on Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:06 pm

I guess it's time to start running traffic to sites that sell you. Then offer the affiliate links through the follow up series.

One thought: With the way affiliate programs are now starting to cookie to the first person that gets a sign up, or linking leads to the first contact for eternity, I believe the behavior it drives is a rush to get the first opt-in and have them forever regardless of when they buy.

I like the idea of having a prospect permanently linked to your affiliate id, but I don't like the behavior it drives in the field.

That's why MS is cool, because it works on a last contact basis. Which basically means that you'd better do your best to follow up with your prospects and hope they buy through your link.

Just a thought.
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Re: IS SATURATION EFFECTING THE LEAD GENERATION AREA?

Postby Verniel Cutar on Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:16 pm

Gainalot, personally i think there are too many mentors here, and there's nothing wrong with that. The problem is, too many people also pretend to be mentors when in fact, they haven't reached that status yet. There are many ways that a newbie can brand himself and still generate leads for his business, even without "faking an image of success".

As of replicated sites, and ubiquitous training courses, you can't prevent that from happening. When people see that something WORKS, they just want to duplicate it. Duplicating someone else's system is a good way to start in online marketing (for example, people attempt to duplicate Mike Dillard's success by being a Magnetic Sponsoring affiliate, there's nothing wrong with this). But if you truly want to venture into greater success, you should really reach a point when you develop your own marketing funnel and your own system. That way, you become an OWNER instead of the distributor.

Distributors make affiliate commissions. Owners receive residual income without exerting additional effort.

P.S: There's nothing wrong in "preaching to the choir", as long as the message you're "preaching" will help them sing better. ;-)
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Re: IS SATURATION EFFECTING THE LEAD GENERATION AREA?

Postby Nathaniel Johnson on Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:17 pm

Saturation is huge if you represent a company. If you come across as someone representing a particular opportunity or service then yea I'd say at some time down the road saturation will really affect getting leads.

One thing I am adapting, branding yourself, allows your services never to be saturated. I am not saying the stuff I am involved in never gets saturated but I, myself can keep myself from getting saturated. I can change and adapt as needed.

So I think you should re assess your original question from IS SATURATION EFFECTING THE LEAD GENERATION AREA? to Is saturation affecting mylead generation area?
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