Hey guys I need your feedback...and I need it from people who know SEO well so please I want serious answers.
I am involved in a discussion with someone who thinks that getting links from authority sites that have nothing to do with network marketing is great for SEO. Isn't that spamming? You should have a link back to your website from a network marketing authority site correct?
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Daniel Attard
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Re: SEO Argument
Hello Daniel,
First of all before thinking about getting backlinks, you should focus first on your on-page leverage factors because if you have a good on-page leverage factors in place and just a few backlinks, it will still outrank the site with more backlinks BUT with no or less on-page leverage factors.
And now for backlinks, it really doesn't matter where your backlinks are coming from.
Hope this helps.
First of all before thinking about getting backlinks, you should focus first on your on-page leverage factors because if you have a good on-page leverage factors in place and just a few backlinks, it will still outrank the site with more backlinks BUT with no or less on-page leverage factors.
And now for backlinks, it really doesn't matter where your backlinks are coming from.
Hope this helps.
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Sonny Lanorias
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Re: SEO Argument
Sonny I am going to have to disagree. Ideally it should be related backlinks for possible site traffic but it really doesn't matter. SEs don't think lol as much as Bing commercials misrepresent.
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Art Lovell
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Re: SEO Argument
If it was bad for linkbuilding, I'd create the spammiest looking one page site and link it to all my biggest competitors
Also, if it was bad for SEO, I would not submit anything to article directories, as they are - well, directories and not all that related to my business. And I would certainly never publish a Press Release, and if I happened to see a link to my website on CNN, I'd file a law suit.
I know, it's too sarcastic, and I don't mean to be rude or anything. Just driving my point across
Anyway, in reality, you cannot always control who links to you. After all, if you publish an article, anyone can take it with your links and place it in their crappy blog. Therefore I don't think having links to your site will hurt your SEO.
Now, how helpful it is going to be? I guess only testing would tell, but I certainly would not mind to have ANY authority site linking back to me.
EDIT: As for spamming, I think it is not the link under which you post that makes it spam, but rather the content you post itself. Just because the link is irrelevant to the topic does not mean my comment is.
Also, if it was bad for SEO, I would not submit anything to article directories, as they are - well, directories and not all that related to my business. And I would certainly never publish a Press Release, and if I happened to see a link to my website on CNN, I'd file a law suit.
I know, it's too sarcastic, and I don't mean to be rude or anything. Just driving my point across
Anyway, in reality, you cannot always control who links to you. After all, if you publish an article, anyone can take it with your links and place it in their crappy blog. Therefore I don't think having links to your site will hurt your SEO.
Now, how helpful it is going to be? I guess only testing would tell, but I certainly would not mind to have ANY authority site linking back to me.
EDIT: As for spamming, I think it is not the link under which you post that makes it spam, but rather the content you post itself. Just because the link is irrelevant to the topic does not mean my comment is.
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Pavol Almasi
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Re: SEO Argument
Well everybody is entitled to their own opinion. =) You can try and see what works.
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Sonny Lanorias
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Re: SEO Argument
Daniel,
I agree with Pavol.
I don't think getting backlinks from sites unrelated to yours is a bad thing since you really cannot control other sites from linking to you.
As far as I have heard, even if you are getting a link from a link farm, you won't be harmed. Those links may not help you but it won't harm you.
Here's an article from free traffic system which talks about a site ranking well by getting links from unrelated sites.
http://www.freetrafficsystem.com/anchor ... relevancy/
I am sure Ferny, Dean, James will answer your question more thoroughly.
Jagan Krishnan
Update
James explained this. If Google finds a trend of you getting links from link farms, spammy sites then your rankings will suffer.
I agree with Pavol.
I don't think getting backlinks from sites unrelated to yours is a bad thing since you really cannot control other sites from linking to you.
As far as I have heard, even if you are getting a link from a link farm, you won't be harmed. Those links may not help you but it won't harm you.
Here's an article from free traffic system which talks about a site ranking well by getting links from unrelated sites.
http://www.freetrafficsystem.com/anchor ... relevancy/
I am sure Ferny, Dean, James will answer your question more thoroughly.
Jagan Krishnan
Update
James explained this. If Google finds a trend of you getting links from link farms, spammy sites then your rankings will suffer.
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Jagan Krishnan
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Re: SEO Argument
The best answer is, it depends.
You won't get marked down any rankings, unless you are buying these links. But if an unrelated, high authority site is linking to you, it'll raise your rankings.
Now, if the site is found to have been selling links, and it looks like you were involved in something fishy, Google will lower your ranking.
So as long as you aren't taking part in anything suspicious or that Google frowns upon, you'll be fine.
Ps: Links that are relevant to your site will help you rank higher for that topic. But any links are better than no links.
You won't get marked down any rankings, unless you are buying these links. But if an unrelated, high authority site is linking to you, it'll raise your rankings.
Now, if the site is found to have been selling links, and it looks like you were involved in something fishy, Google will lower your ranking.
So as long as you aren't taking part in anything suspicious or that Google frowns upon, you'll be fine.
Ps: Links that are relevant to your site will help you rank higher for that topic. But any links are better than no links.
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Brandon Yanofsky
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Re: SEO Argument
There have been plenty of experiments on this subject and people have gotten sites ranked without one single relevant link pointing to their site, ONLY non relevant links just to prove the point.
So does it help? Absolutely, especially if the site is an authority site. Do relevant links help? Absolutely.
So does it help? Absolutely, especially if the site is an authority site. Do relevant links help? Absolutely.
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Bryan Zimmerman
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Re: SEO Argument
Here comes the so-called expert again self-promoting his own stuff. Dude stop it we dont care about it.
"I have many listings that out rank LameZine Articles, ArticlesBase, NBCNews, Yahoo Answers, and etc .."
"I have many listings that out rank LameZine Articles, ArticlesBase, NBCNews, Yahoo Answers, and etc .."
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Sonny Lanorias
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Re: SEO Argument
yea, well I have an article ranking on the top of the search engines right now and since we're going to link drop...again and I don't know how long it's going to stay there just yet, I may as well get some of it too. So if anybody wants a $100.00 discount on Lead Net Pro, let me know.
I don't like Ezine as an adsense farm either, but James I'm going to be honest and say that if someone has a 6% conversion rate as far as click throughs go (if that's what you meant) from there then the issue isn't Ezine.
I've got a few author names that have a click through rate of 38-45% with more than 15,000 views. Just sayin
Hell, I've got one article that has over 50,000 views and has almost 20,000 clicks. The conversion rate is very nice on it too 
I don't like Ezine as an adsense farm either, but James I'm going to be honest and say that if someone has a 6% conversion rate as far as click throughs go (if that's what you meant) from there then the issue isn't Ezine.
I've got a few author names that have a click through rate of 38-45% with more than 15,000 views. Just sayin
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Bryan Zimmerman
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