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[Jeff Hoffman Contribution Level: 2]

David,

Yes, and no...

I just signed up a new iBuzzPro member and spent 2 hours on the phone with her, explaining the system, giving her advice, and helping her set up her first campaign. Tomorrow, I will be consulting with her again, analyzing the results of her campaign and helping her improve it.

I track my time carefully, not just with iBuzzPro, but with all of my businesses. I used to develop software for a living, so it's a habit I have a hard time shaking. On average, I spend 8-10 hours on the phone with a new iBuzz member in their first 2-4 weeks, or about $50/hour for my time.

I doubt anyone here feels like that's unfair.

If all I got was $100 from each sale, I'd be forced to tell my team, "You know what, you're just going to have to figure it out." I like iBuzzPro because it pays me well enough that I don't have to do that.

Best regards,
Jeff

P.S. I think the iBuzzPro system has some other advantages over the competition, but it's been a long day and I've got last night's episode of Heroes waiting for me on the TiVo.

[David Batchelor Contribution Level: 3]

David,

Yes, and no...

I think the iBuzzPro system has some other advantages over the competition, but it's been a long day and I've got last night's episode of Heroes waiting for me on the TiVo.

But what are you basing that on Jeff? I am sure that you are bias Jeff, seen as you are promoting iBuzzPro, where as I am not in either of them, so have nothing to gain financially.

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[Lane Romero-Reiss Contribution Level: 2]

I have had a few different people approach me about iBuzzPro, and am starting to get more and more unsolicited pre-recorded calls coming into my business line, which are clearly products of this system among others. So, my question is mainly to Jeff, but also to the rest of the community:

What differentiates these voice broadcasting tools from SPAM, other than the fact they are sent through phone lines rather than email? With the number of calls you are listing in your daily stats, I can't imagine all the people you calling are on a list you already generated.

Even if you are not using the service in a SPAMmy way, a lot of people are, and what impact do you think this will have in the long run on the effectiveness of this tool? What is in place to keep this service from being shut down due to complaints about unsolicited calls?

I hope this post isn't coming across as hostile. I simply want to go straight to a proponent of the system and gain your perspective on this tool.

Thanks,

Lane Reiss

[Jeff Hoffman Contribution Level: 2]

I have had a few different people approach me about iBuzzPro, and am starting to get more and more unsolicited pre-recorded calls coming into my business line, which are clearly products of this system among others. So, my question is mainly to Jeff, but also to the rest of the community:

What differentiates these voice broadcasting tools from SPAM, other than the fact they are sent through phone lines rather than email? With the number of calls you are listing in your daily stats, I can't imagine all the people you calling are on a list you already generated.

Lane,

Hey, man.

Technically, I suppose it is SPAM... though it's compliant SPAM, and the way I use it, well within the lines defined by the FTC.

Even if you are not using the service in a SPAMmy way, a lot of people are, and what impact do you think this will have in the long run on the effectiveness of this tool? What is in place to keep this service from being shut down due to complaints about unsolicited calls?

Until the FTC changes the rules, neither iBuzzPro nor its competitors will be shut down. As it stands, the DNC does not apply to B2B (business to business) calls. If a networker lists their business phone on a website, it's fair game... even if it's on the national DNC list.

If someone calls one of your numbers that is not listed publicly as a business number, and that number is listed on the DNC, then you can nail the person responsible for the call by filing a complaint with the FTC. The fine for such a violation is $10,000 per incident. Needless to say, I advise my team to use it within the guidelines set by the FTC.

Additionally, whenever I voice broadcast someone, my recorded message advises them to press 9 to be removed from the list. This prevents anyone using iBuzzPro from calling them again. So, it's a piece of cake to opt out. If you get a call after that, it's from someone using a different system, or someone not playing by the rules.

I hope this post isn't coming across as hostile. I simply want to go straight to a proponent of the system and gain your perspective on this tool.

No worries, man. I get these calls, too. I just opt out and move on.

I would MUCH rather get a business oriented call than one of the damn "robocalls" we all got hammered with during the election. Politicians don't give us the option of pressing 9.

Regards,
Jeff

[Angela Jones Contribution Level: 2]

I just read this link.........I must admit there is nothing wrong with paying $500.00 for your time an valuable knowledge. People pay more for Donald Trump seminars and most of the time , Donald Trump is not there.
People can pay less but they still have to go through the the school of hard nocks to get the knowledge you already have. I say, if you are legit business person, you deserve very penny and more. Time and valuable knowledge is priceless.

[Dan Collins Contribution Level: 2]

STOP being afraid to talk to someone live, and do the work that builds MEGA teams. Go to http://dialin4dollarz.com it dials for you, live person, you talk to them with your voice, answering machine automatically leaves a message in your voice and also sends out an email if you get a wrong number,phone busy or left them a message.

That press1 you get people that dont seem to hear that they can press 2 to opt out and they are screaming to have you take them off your list. Plus Sept of this year, new laws regarding voice broadcast is taking effect I have heard. Im sorry but you can not get around good old fashion hard work on the phone if you want to become successful building worldwide.

[Jeff Hoffman Contribution Level: 2]

That press1 you get people that dont seem to hear that they can press 2 to opt out and they are screaming to have you take them off your list. Plus Sept of this year, new laws regarding voice broadcast is taking effect I have heard. Im sorry but you can not get around good old fashion hard work on the phone if you want to become successful building worldwide.

Dan,

I disagree with your preference for predictive dialers over voice broadcasting for the initial contact.

My stats, posted previously in this thread, speak for themselves. You can say voice broadcasting is inferior all you like, but that doesn't change the fact that I use it to generate cheap, interested leads on virtual auto-pilot.

Once I get a list of 100-200 interested leads (via broadcast,) THEN it's time to fire up the predictive dialer. That way, I know every single person it connects me to has some interest, and I'm not wasting my time with uninterested people.

I've tried it both ways, and this is way more time efficient.

As to the change in law this coming September, it's not going to impact voice broadcasting nearly as much as everyone thinks. It's a nice scare tactic to redirect people to other forms of marketing, though.

Warm Regards,
Jeff

[Dan Collins Contribution Level: 2]

Jeff,

It all comes out in the wash in the end doesn't it....Your system is working, you like it, that really is all that matters. However, as a TRUE phone professional, Ill take my repore opening skills over some computer ANYDAY!!! You were quoting stats earlier so I looked up my last 4 hours of work...500 numbers dialed, 394 emails sent out, 87 live answers, and 117 voice messages....Out of that I have opened up 12 serious propects. That to me is they have sent back the request form from my landing site. Good luck in what you do. Oh yeah the Sept. thing being a scare tactic....The DNC list wasn't going to happen either....changed a lot of lives....Bless you man

[Jeff Hoffman Contribution Level: 2]

It all comes out in the wash in the end doesn't it....Your system is working, you like it, that really is all that matters. However, as a TRUE phone professional, Ill take my repore opening skills over some computer ANYDAY!!!

Dan,

So, does that mean I'm not a "TRUE" phone professional?

From my perspective being professional means optimizing for best results (dollars per hour worked), even if I don't appear to be as "cool" in the process.

You were quoting stats earlier so I looked up my last 4 hours of work...500 numbers dialed, 394 emails sent out, 87 live answers, and 117 voice messages....Out of that I have opened up 12 serious propects. That to me is they have sent back the request form from my landing site.

So, of 87 lives answers, you had 12 take action. 13%. That is, indeed, better than I could reasonably expect from voice broadcasting. But, look at the time invested. 4 hours. Do you know how many leads (opt-ins) I could generate in 4 hours? Or, conversely, how little time it would take me to generate 12 leads?

Plus, duplication is a big factor.

When I sponsor someone onto my team and are ready to start calling leads, I can give them EVERYTHING, pre-recorded and ready to go. They don't have to be afraid to pick up the phone. And, psychologically, it's much easier for a new networker to return someone's request for info than it is to cold call.

On the flip side, when it's time for you to duplicate, you have to teach each new person to be as good as you on the phone. It can be done, but it's a long journey...

Ultimately, I value, and work to consistently improve, my ability to connect and build rapport with people on the phone. I don't underestimate the value of that skill. But, I save those efforts for leads that are worth my time.

Good luck in what you do.

Thanks. You, too!

Oh yeah the Sept. thing being a scare tactic....The DNC list wasn't going to happen either....changed a lot of lives.

I'm not saying it won't happen... I'm saying people are misinterpreting what "it" is.

All the new law says is: In order to make a pre-recorded call to consumers, you need prior consent to receive such calls.

Well, notice it says "consumer"... the new law doesn't apply to B2B calls. At all. That leaves a HUGE gap.

In essence, the only people who will be impacted are those using genealogy lists, outdated bizop leads, etc. It will impact some, but not me.

Hope this is helpful,
Jeff

P.S. I'm curious, Dan... have you tried voice broadcasting, before?

[Dan Collins Contribution Level: 2]

Yes, 25000 minutes and kept getting the people who didn't want to hear the whole message to press 2 to opt out go off on me and my staff when the phones were ringing. 2 leads out 25,000 minutes. The phone is such a dirty word in this society, but it is such a skill you can not cheapen it with a press one campaign.

BBR by Mike D says it best when he started on the phone he was calling Dr offices and building his pipeline and skill to build rapport and get thru that gatekeeper....a computer can't teach that...Different schools bro...Many blessings to you


PS That is why its called a 3 way call. I NEVER have to train someone to be as good as someone, I just need them to follow a system so that we are ALL always on the same pitch.