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Oh and BTW, I was trying to show you how to share your videos with others without them going to your websites. You don't need my information though, so hey, that is totally cool with me. I came across as "Mr. Stud" and I apologize.

Have a great day!

[Sandeep Nath Company: MyLeadSystemPRO Contribution Level: 6]

what is the amount of time and money that is the standard then?

Someone calls me from a lead gen page and they want me to talk to their upline since they have only been in the business for 3 months then wouldn't just make sense to go with their upline?

It's not about a 'standard' time or money... it's relative. Mr Stud probably has lesser time to give anyway... unless Mr Newbie really is a cat's whiskers... and since Mrs Lib probably has more time, it would just make sense to squeeze her for all she can give. At the end of the day, each one is an independent owner.

[Michael Herlihy Company: One-24 Contribution Level: 2]

Dave,
At first I have to say when I saw what you wrote I was angry and I wanted to say something
not so nice back. I realized that won't get me any where. So I guess I owe every one an apology.
I am not successful here. I really do not know what I am doing. This is painful.
Thank you for any pointers.
Best to all,
Mike

[Lane Romero-Reiss Contribution Level: 2]

Michael,

I think the key to success is not in never making a mistake, but in recognizing when you have made a mistake, owning up to it, and learning from it.

After seeing your earlier post, I was ready to write you off as just another spammer. The reality is, most of us have made similar mistakes starting out. Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. Well, I have no right to be throwing stones at anyone.

I think your last post showed genuine humility and I for one would like to applaud you for your courage. That could not have been easy to write. Too often people are eager to chastise poor behavior, and too seldom do I see commendations for positive acts.

I'm not saying I would join the opportunity you posted, or would feel completely comfortable doing business with you, yet. That being said, I have seen that you are showing promise, and if you continue to particpate on this site, and learn from others, I think you can do very well for yourself. I have submitted a friend request to you, and I hope we can work together on becoming better networkers.

Lane Reiss

[David Dutton Contribution Level: 2]

IsaChampion (Mike)

VERY COOl...Listen Mike....it is totally cool to say hey...I didn't do it right in the past and I want to work on it.

I am VERY glad you don't think the spamming your biz opp is cool. Today is a NEW day. You already know that was jacked up and you are on BN to do something about it. I am glad you are seriously.

I am totally here to help you if you want to PM me Mike....and no I am not going to try and recruit you into something. I just have a lot of respect for you for what you posted.

Dave

[Brian Robertson Contribution Level: 2]

You never know who knows who... MLM is about relationships, and the right thing to do is to join under the first person who introduced you (Ms. Librarian). If you don't then you risk your credibility with others in your network.

The top income earner in one of my previous companies was introduced to a new company by a friend of mine... long story short, he ended up joining the new company but was so selfish and prideful that he joined direct to the company.

Are you going to run an ethical business or not? You have to lead by example... if it's okay for you to bypass the person who introduced you then you teach your team that it's acceptable to join direct to Mr. Stud also...

[Sheri Weaver Contribution Level: 2]

If your in the right company it won't matter who your upline is because you'll have the system and mastermind to plug into, and point others to the same.
So what if you join with Joe blow over the Librarian, and Joe Blow kicks the bucket? Are you screwed? I hope not! Success isn't built on the back of any one person, rather a team of people.
Integrity speaks for itself, and if the Librarian attracted you to this grand opportunity, bless her by joining under her. If the person who shared this opportunity is someone you just can't stomach to be around, then what's the point?
The deciding factor on joining an opportunity isn't your sponsor, rather the 5 Pillars, thats the litmus test! Chances are the heavy hitters won't have much time left for you anyway, so don't count on their support, get out there and build your own Legacy, and have fun along the way!

Great post. What if we assume you have already taken the necessary steps to educate yourself and build a network of contacts, and were now in the research phase to find a good company when Ms. Librarian contacts you? Suppose Ms. Librarian approaches you with what you feel is the perfect opportunity for you. Allow me to suggest one alternative to your decision of choosing Mr. Stud.
Since you have already established yourself as a leader in attraction marketing, and know that your success is essentially dependent on your own efforts anyway, perhaps you should give Ms. Librarian the option to learn from you. Introduce her to the principles of attraction marketing, and tell her you prefer to work with people who follow those principles. If she commits herself to the principles of attraction marketing then agree to join the opportunity under her. The nice thing here, from a business perspective, is that she is now in YOUR sales funnel.
Think about the potential branding for yourself here. You not only help your downline, but your upline as well! Have her write a testimonial about how she knew nothing and rose to success with your help. This to me is more of a win-win scenario, and you will be helping out someone in your personal community, which makes you more attractive to your warm market, and more of them will approach you (ironic, isn't it?).Of course, if Ms. Librarian chooses not to learn the principles and take the time to develop herself, then you have every right to go with Mr. Stud. You will also do so with a clear conscience.[Lane Reiss

You never know who knows who... MLM is about relationships, and the right thing to do is to join under the first person who introduced you (Ms. Librarian). If you don't then you risk your credibility with others in your network.
The top income earner in one of my previous companies was introduced to a new company by a friend of mine... long story short, he ended up joining the new company but was so selfish and prideful that he joined direct to the company.
Are you going to run an ethical business or not? You have to lead by example... if it's okay for you to bypass the person who introduced you then you teach your team that it's acceptable to join direct to Mr. Stud also...[baldbrian

Thank-God for some ethical people out there. Paul Murphy, Lane Reiss and Bald Brian said it BEST and had EXCELLENT points and I would definitely join any of you in a business!!!!! Not sure about others that are willing to toss me aside to join under someone else they “felt” might get them farther ahead! There were some very good points made. It’s not all about who your upline is but how much effort YOU are willing to put into your business. If your company has the right tools and comp plan in place, Ms Librarian has just as much opportunity to succeed as Mr stud had. If Mr stud is already making his millions, is he really going to care about you joining his business or have time to invest in you personally? On the other hand, Ms librarian has incentive to work with you if she wants to be successful and you never know who she knows.

I know this is a “Business” but I also know there is more to life then “Money” so if I am a little less successful financially but can sleep well at night knowing I run my business in the most ethical way possible, then success will follow and I will be creating lasting and loyal relationships.

An old quote but one I try to live by is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"
We should all live by that and take the selfishness out of how we live (business or not). How much better would our world be?

Sheri ~

[Waseem Mirza Contribution Level: 3]

Hi guys,
In reply to the question my personal opinion would be to contact both and see who is the most helpful, do they both seem to be talking among the same lines? If yes, then how long do they take to get back to you? You may find that although Mr Stud may have alot of success, you will probably find that alot more people will be contacting him and his group will be much bigger.

We only have so many hours in a day, therefore he may not respond to you as quickly as you need therefore it doesn't matter who you join as long as they are there to help you when required.
Hope this helps

[David Dutton Contribution Level: 2]

Waseem Mirza

Great approach...who is most helpful.Even if Ms Librarian doesn't know much...she may know where to get the info and sincerely wants to help you.

Dave

[Delete Delete Contribution Level: 2]

Hey Gang...

David Dutton here...

Let me ask you this...

You get pitched by the librarian about this hot biz opp.
Mrs. Librarian has never owned a business in her life.She
has never made above X dollars annually.

You fall in love with the biz opp and find out Mr. Stud is the
top guy. He is the one that knows how to be successful in the
business and is making X amount a month.

Is it smart business to go with the Librarian or the biz opp pro?

Remember the quote you I am sure you have heard:

"Don't ask someone who makes 40K a year how to make a million"

Your thoughts?

This right here is just about judgement. If the guy is a leader and can show you success then I say go with him. But if the librarian has a great attitude and wants to make it happen, can't count her out yet. have to start learning somewhere. Hmm....