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[Jaime Morales Contribution Level: 3]

I wanted to discuss this issue for my own benefit and for all other MLSP users that are on BN.
Over the last couple of months, I've noticed that the content within MLSP is really not as strong as
it was when it first launch.

I noticed that their last few training webinars haven't been posted and their last few affiliate programs
never came to pass. ie; the Merchant Account.

I still use it and I have enough members signed in to where it leaves me with a profit after it's paid for. I just wanted to know your thoughts on this topic.

This is not a negative post, I just want to see what some of you think..

Peace.

[Daniel Campagnoli Company: Max International Contribution Level: 2]

I used MLMLSP for a few months shortly after it came out. They have some good stuff in it but going by other peoples feedback I think a lot of people thought it might have been a silver bullet for them, which nothing will ever be.

Also it probably became a victim of it's own success as anyone who looks around for a while will see the same capture pages. It looses it's self-branding and it just seems like people promoting the same system.

It's a well made system, but it is just that. I've since created my own landing pages and autoresponder series which aren't costing me anything.

[Gregg Carter Contribution Level: 2]

I agree with Daniel about creating your own system. I felt the same way when I first saw MLSP that it was a good system. (I guess it still is) But then as I was searching around for more info about it I kept coming across the same landing pages. That's when I started to question the 'self-branding' angle.

I signed up for the trial offer and did get a few useful ideas from the training. But that's as far as I went.

[Lawrence Tam Company: Numis Network Contribution Level: 3]

When you understand MLSP is a tool that trains you.... then you understand.

I can't complain. I'm in the leaderboards and doing very well.

think of repeatability. It's hard enough for someone to brand themselves, how many people do you think you can train on your OWN autoresponder, training center, webinars.... If you can. do it. There is little use for any customized system... why? it's just a packaged tool.

You might as well branch out and build your own which is of course the logical route but you need it all. capture page, autoresponder, training (w/ webinars), integration, speed to implement, new lead integration....

List goes on and on. If you understand MIke Dillard's teachings and black belt recruiting... It's not what you perceive the product to be useful in your own eyes, as that is irrelevant, as to if it's important to your customer's (lead's) eyes.

[Kurt Henninger Company: Shaklee Corporation Contribution Level: 5]

MLM LSP is an excellent solution to "get people off the ground". Sooo many people get bogged down in html, landing pages, auto-responders, etc. and they really just want a quick way to get things going.

So, with that purpose in mind, you can offer the system to them (which is what I do) to help them get going.

However, in the long run, I do stress that its always better to learn to do things like landing pages, sales pages, writing auto-responders.

So, no, its not going downhill, it does provide a solution for people to just get people off the ground.

Thats how I look at it.

[Devendra Patel Company: Wealth Masters International Contribution Level: 3]

Hey friends,

i'm using MLSP, it's really effective to brand me, and position as a leader, i'm expecting more Advt. resources to add in MLSP, so any new joiner can market it easily.

Cheers,
Devendra Patel
YOUR MLM LIFE BLOOD - http://www.MLMLeadSystemInc.com

[Jordan Schultz Company: Numis Network Contribution Level: 3]

I have to say that I agree with Lawrence on this one. No matter what you're using, what system or company you're promoting, they are all just tools. You still have to be able to use them properly. I know there are a lot of people running around using the same catch phrases, and capture pages, and all that jazz... which makes it that much easier for myself to brand myself as a leader. I'm using the same systems yes, but I'm offering quality content through facebook, or forums, or my blog, etc.... Nicely put Lawrence.

Once again I'll stress this point that I pound into my team's heads. ORIGINALITY... even if you're using the same tools as other people, you can still sound different and act different because you are a different person!

MLSP is still just a tool, and if all you're doing is running around promoting this tool, you're no better than the people who run around promoting their opportunities.

[Shelly Allen Contribution Level: 4]

I've not personally used MLSP but I do know...

He who controls the content...

Controls the central nervous system of the business!

[Eric Walker Company: SendOutCards Contribution Level: 4]

I know many of you who know of me understand that I advocate Renegade Professional thru and thru, but most of you may not realize that I study various programs across the net.

In fact, I've studied MLM Lead System Pro for quite some time now, and there are many things that are impressive about their system. Many things. I've taken away many learning points from what they offer.

I can't say how valuable that is to be able to find value from something when so many things out there on the net are value-less. And for that reason MLM Lead System Pro has been very successful and there are people rocking out with that system.

But it is a system and systems come and go as far as systems are concerned.

But the biggest aspect of MLM Lead System Pro that I have noticed in terms of a con, is that they lack the deeper sense of purpose driven vision that unites people into collaborations and idea creation. Seth Godin might call this a Tribe.

[Peter Arnold Contribution Level: 3]

Hello Partners:

Personally, I like the idea of having a Marketing System, but I'm a strong advocate of creating your OWN Marketing System from scratch (-vs- the pre-made types).

There are some excellent teachers / leaders who contribute to this Forum that can coach "anybody" on how to develop their OWN Systems, without difficulty.

MLMLSP + MLM Mastermind - I have researched and analysed both MLM Lead System Pro and the MLM Mastermind System - currently the two most popular (pre-built) Systems, I believe. Both provide exceptional training - both are very enticing - both put emphasis on "leading" with their Systems + "re-selling" their Systems.

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YOU, Inc? - I also got on the lists of about ten (10) members in "each" of these Systems - just to see how well they had branded "themselves" with them. I must say that I was shocked - as I quickly saw (still see) that 98% of them are simply using the exact same (cookie-cutter) pre-written Autorespomder messages - the exact same Lead Capture Pages, with Videos of either Norbert or Jonathan showing - OR, they have their own Videos on them, but are basically using the exact same "scripts" (("... there are two things that every entrepreneur needs - more leads + more cash flow...")) - or something like that. Sadly, it's a dead give-away - there is NO real PERSONAL branding taking place with the vast majority of these users, and that's a shocker, because each System "enables" this, IF users make the effort to do so.

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RELATIONSHIPS? - Observing the flood of "identical" (canned) Autoresponder messages coming into my Inbox - from users of both of these (off-the-shelf) Systems - I see NO effort in "getting to know" me - none - nada. It reminds me of what most 'Internet Marketers' do - they dump you into their Autoresponders - then they "drip, drip, drip" on you forever. The messages I'm receiving are "canned" messages - many have NO relevance to me whatsoever - many are almost "condescending" in their tone ((wonder who 'crafted' those?)) - many are quite "preachy" ((-vs- providing helpful content)). Most of the e-mails I get are "selling the System itself" or "selling some Affiliate deal". Hmmm..

The fact is, they don't "know" me - they're not "trying" to know me or learn anything of my interests, my problems or my concerns. They never "pick up the phone" - they never "send me a card" - there's basically NO "relationship building" going on - just an "automated, robotic" series of pre-written messages.

One Shoe Fits ALL? - In other words, "everybody" is getting the exact SAME (Autoresponder) messages - yet "each" of us is a completely unique individual, with different circumstances and different needs, etc. If we give this some sober thought, we'll see the serious flaw in this. On the other hand, with our OWN System (one that WE ourselves create), we can control this whole area ourselves.

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Bottom Line - I agree with Eric Walker's last sentence above, regarding both of these tools (Systems).

In my opinion - and I don't want to be negative - very impressive technology, for sure - but much of the human element is missing.

Sincerely / Peter A.
http://www.PeterArnoldOnline.com

Peter Arnold, CLU, CFC / Founder
Business Achievers Academy / Canada