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[David Gibson Company: Prepaid Legal Services, Inc. Contribution Level: 1]

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[David Gibson Company: Prepaid Legal Services, Inc. Contribution Level: 1]

Right, but Google made that much money because they are the dominate leader in search engine traffic. iJango will make nowhere near that amount, ever, based on traffic alone.

Is based on sponsored and advertising links.

And I think you fail to see what SkyBiz was. It was a shopping portal. You bought the portal, you supposedly made money when people shopped at your portal (but no one other than the portal owner ever did), and you made money from the sales of other portals.

Wrong Brent. Skybiz was in the business of offering people educational training and websites. They never offered shopping online whatsoever. These websites were typically web packs. They were not generally used outside of the company, therefore, the company offered no real value of any sort to any one and that's why in 2001 the FTC shut it down.

iJango is no different in this regard with the exception of traffic. And that will result in such a small residual that it will be irrelevant.

The comp plan models after Excel's comp plan. You signed just a handful of customers and teached them to do the same. Let's put this in a conservative prespective; Let's say you Brent have over 5,000 total customers in your Ijango organization and each customers who uses the Ijango portal avgering no more than $20 each (Remember, the customer was not charged a dime to surf), and our highest residuals commissions percentage payout in Ijango is 22%. So, 22% of $20 revenue is around $4.00/month in commissions. Take 5,000 customers X $4.00, you're looking at $20,000/month in residual income alone.

Again, the part that bothers me about the entire plan is that "customers" are free with iJango. They do not have to generate any revenue for the company in order for the bonuses to be released. Classic money game scenario.

So was long distance, telecommunications and now energy which I understand that you're involved in it with Zurvita/MXEnergy (Which is a great company) When Excel got into MLM with it's long distance service in 1989, they were met with great skepticism by every state and federal agencies and they want to shut it down. Though Excel came out alive, but not without paying a heavy price (And few management and ownership changes) in end when then-parent company VarTec filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. It's happening right now to Ignite/Stream Energy which being sued by some law firm for Illegal Pyramid Scheme under the RICO act. RICO act?? Give me a break! Eliot Ness would've rolled in his grave if ever hear about this.

Coded bonuses are great, but are only legit when revenue is generated from product sales is what releases the bonus. "Free" does not generate revenue.

Then how come Google or Yahoo managed to stay in business when we use their sites? Again, it's from advertising. Like iGoogle or MyYahoo, Ijango is offering customers the web portals for free and when they used the portal to surf, they don't pay for it, we tracked the traffic thru a system that Google set it up for Ijango and we get paid for it!!. I don't think Steve Smith wouldn't ever launched Ijango without consulting with his lawyers first and talked to Google and others. It's a good thing that we're partnered with Google, Yahoo, MSN and other services to get a piece of the pie.

Hope that helps.

[Brent Worley Contribution Level: 1]

So was long distance, telecommunications and now energy which I understand that you're involved in it with Zurvita/MXEnergy (Which is a great company) When Excel got into MLM with it's long distance service in 1989, they were met with great skepticism by every state and federal agencies and they want to shut it down. Though Excel came out alive, but not without paying a heavy price (And few management and ownership changes) in end when then-parent company VarTec filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. It's happening right now to Ignite/Stream Energy which being sued by some law firm for Illegal Pyramid Scheme under the RICO act. RICO act?? Give me a break! Eliot Ness would've rolled in his grave if ever hear about this.

HUGE difference to point out there between how
Zurvita and other legitimate coded bonus models
work:

When we sign customers, it is a customer, meaning
they either immediately generate or will generate
actual revenue for the company through a real
product or service being offered.

With iJango, there is no guarantee of this. Says
so in your comp plan: The only thing they have
to do is sign-up as a free "Registered Customer."

In other words, I could sign up as my own
customer, sign my wife up, sign my dog
up under an aliased email address, and now
I have my 3 points without generating any
revenue.

So try to draw comparisons all you want, there
are no legitimate comparisons between what
we offer and what iJango would offer.

Brent

[Reynaldo Perales Contribution Level: 3]

Personally...

..we gotta be mind oriented without emotions..that's most of our problems..when we
come to a road and have to make a decision..

I started as a teenager and started right from the very beginning..not that I knew what
I was doing only that no emotions involved..I gotta thank my mom though..all those years
helping her with her herb and spice garden that kept the family healthy..and it turn into
a little business..her stuff really worked..later I found out she was a very spiritiual woman..

I notice that she was giving me a lot of advice..some how she knew that I was planning to
run away and never to come back, she was right..

I actually end up farming my own customers, reps back then distributers and the reason they
stuck with me..I called it a business feeder..for personal reasons, I just decided to keep it to
ourselves..anybody can do that except I don't know that much about the net..I mean, why
share with a company that don't give crap about us?..not all, some..

People involved could go and experience where ever they liked..with the confidence that they
would always have something to fall back on..what a great freedom feeling..

"Look at what happen to me...I can't believe it myself..suddenly I was upon the top of the
world..it should've been somebody else..

Believe or not I'm walking on air..I never felt so free, free, free..with just a cassette tape and a
cassette player..who could it be..believe it or not it's just me!..*sigh*" 17 years old, dedicated
to some young people here..

Be on your own but really, your own!..

rey

P.S. With some great products like Dillards and others, like some great e courses you decide can
start a people's farm and stay together until ????..just try to be as unique as possible..really!

[Deb Bauer Company: Juice Plus+ Contribution Level: 1]

No one is going to buy anything from these personal "shopping portals" to ever make it worth anyone's trouble. That concept has failed over and over again for 10 years. Yes... YOU may buy stuff from your own portal because you'll think it's cool to do, but you'll never have a group of loyal customers who will do the same, which means the only people who really benefit from this feature, are the owners of IJango who get an over-ride on every purchase made in the system.

You're talking about changing someone's daily habits when it comes to their social media lives, and buying.

That's the hardest thing in the world to do, and the only people who will actually take an interest and follow through with those two hurdles, are distributors because they paid money to do so.

In addition, there's nothing proprietary in the IJango system that can't be duplicated, improved upon, and then offered for FREE, by someone else. The moment that happens, (and it will), the company goes under.

I don't want to rain on people's parades here, but I feel obligated to speak up, because I know what's going to happen.

This will be a fun little gimmick of an opportunity for some people, but if you're planning to quit your job and pay your mortgage with this for years to come, it would be extremely foolish.

Mike

Hi, Mike,
Just to clarify from my understandingand direct experience. If this was just a shopping portal, yeah, I agree, changing people's behavior is difficult and if it was dependent on that, chances are slim that there would be success.

This is not dependent on anyone shopping at all, ever. This is dependent on people doing what they always do. The site just went live yesterday. I had my Facebook profile already there...Twitter would have been, but for the major problems they had yesterday. It was present this morning in real time. Hulu, Flikr, National Geographic were all there. You can custom make your home page with the stuff you ARE ALREADY USING.. (didn't mean to shout!) Add whatever widgets you want. Keep track of your calendar, pay bills, weather, get directions, search through Google, Yahoo or Bing.. All that is already there. You can move widgets around, change them out, whatever to make your life easier. The point of the iJango portal is to make your life easier. How many times do you find stuff online and you put it either on your desk top or in your favorites and then lose track of it? This site is designed so that as long as a website has a widget, it will be able to be added to your own personalized home page.

If you use Ebay auctions, it will be showing your auctions or the ones you're watching in real time so you don't have to keep checking in.

I'm guessing you haven't tried it. It costs nothing. You have nothing to lose.
Here is my address to my free customer portal. http://homestretch.ijango.com

This site has nothing to do with signing up for the business. It is simply a site to sign up as a non-paying customer to use the portal. It is still in the last stages of Beta testing, so doesn't have the hundreds of widgets it will have. It does have enough, however to get a taste of what it is. It also includes a blog (you can import your current one to the site, if you wish.) It also has email, if you like. There will be power point capabilities - not sure if they're operational.. Haven't checked it all out yet. Enjoy.

BTW, there is a toolbar you can download, but it is not necessary to do so to operate the portal. I downloaded mine and it seems to be working OK.

[David Gibson Company: Prepaid Legal Services, Inc. Contribution Level: 1]

[quote="BrentWorley[/quote]

So try to draw comparisons all you want, there
are no legitimate comparisons between what
we offer and what iJango would offer.

Brent[/quote]

Comparison??? Brent, you hadn't read my message correctly. I was pointed out the trouble Excel was in when it had to jump a bunch of hoops to please with FTC and attorney generals in several states. And Ijango won't be the last either. NOT ONCE had I ever made comparison to Zurvita with Ijango. They're two peas in a pod. As I said it before, Zurvita is a great company and Mark and Tracy Jarvis had done a tremendous job of steering that company through the tough times, especially they when the Jarvis went through the B.S. with the frivious lawsuits caused by their former company Ameriplan.

I could sign up as my own
customer, sign my wife up, sign my dog
up under an aliased email address, and now
I have my 3 points without generating any
revenue.

I don't know about your dog which I think that's very hilarious. LOL!! As I said before Brent, Ijango detected when customers click, surf, from advertising thru traffic, downloaded music or shopping online thru it's software system and WE GET PAID!! However, I can bet you money that when I do signed my friends and familes up, they won't be able to dropped the mouse to go through their web portals. Once again, IT'S FREE!! No one gets hurt and it doesn't cost them a cent for them to surf. I'll said it again; If I had a total of 1,000 reps in my organization, each has 10 customers (1,000 reps X 10 customers = 10,000); Which each of the customers had a internet usage of $10 each. Let's do the math: 10,000 customers X $10 Internet Usage = $100,000 divided by 12% commission, I made $12,000/month in commissions (Not include the cash bonuses of course).

I wish you well in Zurvita, Brent. However, I'm going to give you a word of advice; Don't knock it until you see it or try it.

[Roger Silen Contribution Level: 2]

Keep in mind that in order for the company to pay YOU they must be getting paid from the field... I can promise you that Google and Facebook are not sharing revenues with iJango... so that means in order for YOUR commissions to build your team/members/customers MUST be buying stuff not just surfing and doing all the free things they normally do. That means a CHANGE OF HABITS as Mike stated!

I am sure that iJango will do well at least for some measure of time. however I would not be surprised if the main source of commissions is from the income derived from the monthly membership fee of $20 or whatever it is...

Just my thoughts. If you are in iJango you can at least be happy with the attention the company is generating!!

Make it happen,

[Gary A. Mitchell Contribution Level: 2]

I watched the vid and it reminds me of the "Pet Rock" years ago. Gary Dahl said that with good marketing you can sell anything and he did.

I tend to agree with Mike Dillard, you've got to groom prospects for the long term, there's nothing like attraction marketing and what it does for everyone involved.

If iJango is a good thing then we'll here more about it, sometimes it's easy to overlook new things because were unfamiliar with them. I'll keep an eye out for where this thing goes, good luck to those involved- seriously.

thanks;

Gary

[Debbie Turner Contribution Level: 3]

No one is going to buy anything from these personal "shopping portals" to ever make it worth anyone's trouble. That concept has failed over and over again for 10 years. Yes... YOU may buy stuff from your own portal because you'll think it's cool to do, but you'll never have a group of loyal customers who will do the same, which means the only people who really benefit from this feature, are the owners of IJango who get an over-ride on every purchase made in the system.

You're talking about changing someone's daily habits when it comes to their social media lives, and buying.

That's the hardest thing in the world to do, and the only people who will actually take an interest and follow through with those two hurdles, are distributors because they paid money to do so.

In addition, there's nothing proprietary in the IJango system that can't be duplicated, improved upon, and then offered for FREE, by someone else. The moment that happens, (and it will), the company goes under.

I don't want to rain on people's parades here, but I feel obligated to speak up, because I know what's going to happen.

This will be a fun little gimmick of an opportunity for some people, but if you're planning to quit your job and pay your mortgage with this for years to come, it would be extremely foolish.

Mike

I've sat back and watched this unfold and I've learned my lessons from jumping into things like this in past. Mike, I noticed you popped in here a few times and I so appreciate your participation in this discussion. I personally give this a two thumbs down for the pages of reasons already given.

Debbie

[chris hurney Contribution Level: 1]

This will wind up just like Buzzirk, a quick way for the top to make big money recruiting like crazy. I dont get why people fall for these models that are obviously money games. Do yourself a favor and join a business that has substance and that actually has end users and happy customers who join not for the oppty but because they are receiving value.

Chris