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[Melvin Goodrum Company: AdvoCare International, L.P. Contribution Level: 4]

Karo.Hi!

No matter what you decide...you will remember me.

BUY NONE...YES. YOU READ WELL...NNNOOONNNEE!

Keep your hard earned money in your pocket.

Your situation is like:
** Someone that wants to build a house by your own...with no experience whatsoever.
** And with your few dollars you want to buy one of two courses to learn "HOW TO BUILD A HOUSE".
** Ask yourself...do you have money to buy the materials and the lot to build the house?
** Ask yourself...How long will it take for you to learn how to build a house?
** Ask yourself How bad you need the house build? How fast you eed the house?

Be well,

Roger The

The richest people in the world are INVESTORS. They take money and invest it to make more money. Those who try to hold onto everything they got will surely lose it in the long run for whatever reason.

[Melvin Goodrum Company: AdvoCare International, L.P. Contribution Level: 4]

Mike.Hi!

The lady has very few resources.

Put your hand in your heart and ask yourself...Does this lady really will use her few dollars in my material and ge the results she really needs...in the frame of time she needs? IT is totally ridiculious to think so...with your material I assure this lady in six month from now will be more confuse than today.
I am so sure that I am willing to give her your course as a gift...and we can talk in six month.

The same apply with Renegade courses...they simple do not work in these cases...I have seen in this same forum people with real skills asking for help over an over.

This lady needs other solution not imcomplete courses that even experts have problems to implement.


Be well,

Roger
P.S.At least Renegade has an army of coaches as supercoaches to help people navegate trough turbulent waters.
P.P.S. I have never hidden that I am not fan and adulator of yours...I simple not see what others see in your materials...I even went to the extreme to see if I was being bias..and get involved in Copy writing, PPC Domination, Traffic Formula #1(one of the worst courses I have bought for $1K) Traffic Formula #2...and???? Still not see nothing...I am ready to be kick out of this forum for telling the truth..just return my money and I will happy go.

Well, it just got real around here.

[Matt Adamo Contribution Level: 2]

Roger, I think that is the worst advice I've ever seen on this forum. It makes no sense what-so-ever, and the fact that you'd try to prevent this person from learning and experiencing new knowledge from any source is ridiculous.

Shame on you.

Mike

Laughing quite hard at this response. I love it how mike just absolutely told you everything you said was wrong. It's pretty basic to understand that investing in your education is not just helpful but a necessity. Even industry leaders - i will bet, spend quite a few dollars in continued education each year. Spending 40$ on magnetic sponsoring is a great investment in my opinion. And if you are deciding which book is better just get both, if you can't spend 100$ for your own education then you probably don't belong in this industry.

The richest people in the world are INVESTORS. They take money and invest it to make more money. Those who try to hold onto everything they got will surely lose it in the long run for whatever reason.

On a separate note, i'm reading "the cashflow quadrant" right now, and this book is AWESOME. A definite read for anyone really.

-Matt

[Tristan Richards Company: Organo Gold, Inc. Contribution Level: 3]

Get both, never too much to learn. Like Mike said your education never stops, buy all the books and courses you can get your hands on.

Tristan Richards

[Tim Erway Contribution Level: 2]

Hi you all.

If you need a car to work...but have a problem...WHICH PROBLEM? Scarce money. Man oh man.

Would you "invest" your few dollars in learning "How to build a car" or you go shopping the best car you can get with the money you have?

Even though learning is great...oh yes. knowledge is Power...well...APPLY KNOWLEDGE(WISDOM) is POWER...in MRS KARO case is better to get into a program already UP and RUNNING...like this one:


With just $39.00 entry level...she can start playing around and LEARNING and hopefully EARNING in short time...AH did I mention that almost immediately can start getting her downline doing the same.

Luke 14:28-32 has a great advice for everyone of us in business...it says: "For example, who of YOU that wants to build a tower does not first sit down and calculate the expense to see if he has enough to complete it? Otherwise, he might lay its foundation BUT NOT BE ABLE TO FINISH IT, and all the onlookers might start to ridicule him...saying "This man started to build but was not able to finish".

I this advice coming from Jesus ridiculous? Is he talking about the four square boxes of Kiyosaki?

Please read carefully Mrs Karo post and grasp the real situation she is in.

Be well,

Roger The
P.S. Matt the roads of this forum are paved with lots of laughter empty pockets Mike adulators.

You don't need no education, just hit the "easy button" by joining my deal.

My IQ dropped several points as a result of reading this post... unbelievable.

[Kevin Ross Contribution Level: 1]

There is very good advise here and I have to agree with most comments. I started almost two years ago in MLM and probably like most starting out in the industry, expected to make quick income so to move on with other things of enjoyment in life. One thing I know for sure about this industry and that is you can never get enough of learning or training about your business and how to accomplish growth than from those who have already achieved success.

I have gathered a tromendous amount of knowledge about online marketing from both Magnetic Sponsoring as well as Renegade University. Point! Where one may lack information that would benefit your growth in business, the other one will offer what may be needed to move you one more step forward.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that information and knowledge is power=THE KEY. Although when I first started in network marketing and stepped my left foot through the door I didn't reaize I had to pull the other foot through with it. Sometimes in order to move that one step closer to our goal, we may need to scarifice on the other hand to achieve the goal. So if the knowledge is available through both resources, then I would agree to do them both as they will benefit you in the long-term.

Good Luck!

[Matt Adamo Contribution Level: 2]

Hi you all.

If you need a car to work...but have a problem...WHICH PROBLEM? Scarce money. Man oh man.

Would you "invest" your few dollars in learning "How to build a car" or you go shopping the best car you can get with the money you have?

Even though learning is great...oh yes. knowledge is Power...well...APPLY KNOWLEDGE(WISDOM) is POWER...in MRS KARO case is better to get into a program already UP and RUNNING...like this one:
http://globalnpn.com/?id=93579&tag=

With just $39.00 entry level...she can start playing around and LEARNING and hopefully EARNING in short time...AH did I mention that almost immediately can start getting her downline doing the same.

Luke 14:28-32 has a great advice for everyone of us in business...it says: "For example, who of YOU that wants to build a tower does not first sit down and calculate the expense to see if he has enough to complete it? Otherwise, he might lay its foundation BUT NOT BE ABLE TO FINISH IT, and all the onlookers might start to ridicule him...saying "This man started to build but was not able to finish".

I this advice coming from Jesus ridiculous? Is he talking about the four square boxes of Kiyosaki?

Please read carefully Mrs Karo post and grasp the real situation she is in.

Be well,

Roger The
P.S. Matt the roads of this forum are paved with lots of laughter empty pockets Mike adulators.

Alright, lets get some things straight. You said "would i invest in how to build a car, or just buy one." Well if you relate this to business or marketing of any kind, it would be stupid and illogical to just buy one (or in this case buy "into" one). You just suggested buying into the a network marketing company. Well what happens when this month is over and she has sponsored no one, like so many inexperienced people do? She then becomes part of the 97% of people that fail in this industry.

This is the same exact reason that buying leads is dumb. besides the fact that they are not responsive, when you make any type of investment in this industry it HAS to be something that will work for you FOREVER. After you have exhausted your lead list your investment has become obsolete. However if you buy a product that shows you how to be attractive and think like an alpha (something that humans have been relating to for all of time and will be for a long time to come) you gain something that you can use for the rest of your life.

Lastly you make it sound like everyone on this forum is an "adulator" of Mike Dillard, AND you make it sound like that is a bad thing. Well first off, i am by no means an adulator of Mike Dillard. If he made a product that was total shit then i would most certainly never buy from him again. However he hasn't. I own his entire product line, and every single thing in it provides great content. Magnetic Sponsoring especially is the greatest book on mindset i have ever read. Now i realize that he does not take you by the hand and tell you how to implement the teachings into your business (and that is why you dislike it i'm guessing?), but only the best in this industry will go above and beyond anyways.

I'm not defending Mike Dillard, however i am defending the right way to start a business and prosper. It just so happens that Dillard created and stands by products that entertain this philosophy.

And the fact that it seems like he is being "adulated" is AMAZING on his part then. Clearly he is doing something to attract people to him and hes making a lot of money off of it. If you don't surround yourself by the best, and make decisions and act like they do, then you will never become the best.

And to totally top this off, he has an affiliate program attached to it, so you don't even need a network marketing business to get started. In fact a LOT of the people on this forum use his product as an affiliate product in their sales funnel.

Alright, I'm done,

-Matt

[Jim Ticehurst Contribution Level: 4]

Hi Karo, both of these options (and nearly all of the reputable online trainers) offer a money back guarantee so why worry about it? try them both on for size and see which one fits (maybe neither will?) It really is impossible for anyone to say which one is best for you, it's like asking the people on here which television programme you should watch tonight or what you should have for dinner today? I guess thats why they make cars, shoes and everything else in differt colors and sizes.
Just do what you would do if you were out shopping for new clothes, just see which one's suits your style, maybe none will, maybe a couple might?...the main thing is... Do Something!..
thats it , Merry Christmas, regards Jim T.

[Matt Adamo Contribution Level: 2]

Tim.Hi!

Please do not drop one more point...I would hate see Mike fire you and lost one of his employees.

From my part I do not wan that blame on me...so SO LONG.

Be well,

Roger
P.S. Sorry for my delay reply I was doing my daily 1 hour hoops shuts at the gym.
P.P.S. For those whose beer got warm and pizza got cold...do not re-heated...because I getting bore with this discussion.

Burning bridges is sometimes necessary, this probably wasn't the best one to burn.

I've received tremendous value from both which is why I promote both programs, it's not a matter of which one is better than the other just like anything else it's a matter of personal choice.

Education is the key no matter what business you pursue, and it doesn't matter to me were I get that education as long as it's beneficial to building my business-"Knowledge is Power" but it's what you do with that knowledge that matters the most.