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Re: Would You Want This Person as Your Sponsor?

Postby Paul Murphy on Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:24 am

True Dean, there will always be two forces to reckon with, the positive / negative, yin / yang, its a universal law and seems to be part of the balance.
My point is would you want to be the one who comes across on the down side consistently, and how would that reflect in the eyes of others? Aren't you creating a negative brand for yourself?
There's also a difference between having a healthy, intelligent discussion between two individuals, sharing concepts and ideas that will create a better solution, then coming from a negative or defensive nature consistently. That shows weakness, fear, and a lack of character. You won't see the icons in any professional field doing that, unless they are CNN or Rush Limbaugh and have found a way to capitalize on negativity.
Since Networking and attraction marketing play on the positive side of human relationships, it serves no purpose to belittle or criticize people, even if they are on the wrong path. I've been guilty of the same in the past, and as I grow and study myself and the industry, I'm aware that the universal law of attraction holds true. Like attracts like.
Teachers and Students of prosperity avoid this kind of behavior like the plague, at least the ones I've been following, Mike Dillard, Jim Rohn, Brian Tracey, Anthony Robbins, Randy Gage, Dr Wayne Dyer, Walter Wattles, Les Brown, Mark Weiser, Michael Dlouhy, Tom Schreiter, and the list goes on and on. :arrow:
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Re: Would You Want This Person as Your Sponsor?

Postby Juanita Waterman on Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:47 am

Wow Paul could not of Said it Better. It will be a fine Day when we can all say what we think, with out being jerks and can actually help someone! Instead of Demean them and degrade them and Chew them up and spit them out!
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Re: Would You Want This Person as Your Sponsor?

Postby Tom Bradley on Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:16 am

Yes...and that is why it's wise to pay attention to how they are saying what they are saying. Criticism is not inherently negative, but it can be delivered in a negative way:

"There are better companies out there" sure sounds better than "Your company sucks" or "Only an idiot would join that company".

If nobody challenges the status-quo then you end up with "the Emperor's New Clothes". One of the ways you successfully shut a person down who may be offering challenging critique is to disparage them by accusing them of being negative, prejudice, mean spirited, discriminatory, etc. It usually gets them off into the weeds defending themselves and the subject at hand is forgotten completely.

You can avoid it by avoiding personal attacks. State the facts or make the inquiry without editorializing.
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Re: Would You Want This Person as Your Sponsor?

Postby Ingrid camacho on Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:40 pm

Build people up and you will have a friend for life and maybe even a business partner too.

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Re: Would You Want This Person as Your Sponsor?

Postby Dave Kotecki on Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:27 pm

PaulMurphy wrote:True Dean, there will always be two forces to reckon with, the positive / negative, yin / yang, its a universal law and seems to be part of the balance.
My point is would you want to be the one who comes across on the down side consistently, and how would that reflect in the eyes of others? Aren't you creating a negative brand for yourself?
There's also a difference between having a healthy, intelligent discussion between two individuals, sharing concepts and ideas that will create a better solution, then coming from a negative or defensive nature consistently. That shows weakness, fear, and a lack of character. You won't see the icons in any professional field doing that, unless they are CNN or Rush Limbaugh and have found a way to capitalize on negativity.
Since Networking and attraction marketing play on the positive side of human relationships, it serves no purpose to belittle or criticize people, even if they are on the wrong path. I've been guilty of the same in the past, and as I grow and study myself and the industry, I'm aware that the universal law of attraction holds true. Like attracts like.
Teachers and Students of prosperity avoid this kind of behavior like the plague, at least the ones I've been following, Mike Dillard, Jim Rohn, Brian Tracey, Anthony Robbins, Randy Gage, Dr Wayne Dyer, Walter Wattles, Les Brown, Mark Weiser, Michael Dlouhy, Tom Schreiter, and the list goes on and on. :arrow:


I normally won't post an entire post as a quote, yet this one could be easily taken out of context. So I give the whole thing.

I'm gonna rip on the post. I absolutely do not intend to "put down" the author in any way. I disagree with some of the opinions.

I'm against war.
(i do recognize the irony since I've made a lot of money from it)
Does that make me negative?
If so, I am positively negative in that regard. :)

Who gives a flying rip what some people think of you?
There are just as many who would be on your side.

Anyone who uses "defensive" to describe another person's reaction
has no argument. When attacked, everyone defends.

Rush Limbaugh and CNN are only negative when you don't agree with them.
Ask Rush about Conservatism. Bet you'll think he's positive on that.

I think it's never right to belittle people, but criticism is just putting
out your opinion. If the other person doesn't want to hear it, you should
just let it go.

There's nothing wrong with a negative brand as long as it sells.
Being negative does not show weakness, fear, or a lack of character.
On the last point, it only shows a lack of what you consider to be a
proper character. Everyone has character, whether good or bad.
(based only on your opinion)

Negativity sells. Use it.

"it serves no purpose to belittle or criticize people, even if they are on the wrong path."
I quoted this so I couldn't be misunderstood.
As if you know whether someone is on the wrong path.
Arrogant beyond belief.
You may believe they're on the wrong path, but it's their path, not yours.
So how would you know?

Another disclaimer:
I've met Mike Dillard twice and I think he's a very friendly and honest person.

Anyone who has ever read Mike Dillard's post about why he doesn't shop at
Wal-Mart probably wouldn't agree with the last sentence of this post.

In my opinion, if Mr. Dillard believes something, he will give it to you
straight, regardless of how you feel about his opinion. Negative or not.

This was not meant to be a negative post.
Just a simple disagreement with what I imagined the author's points to be.
It's entirely possible that I misunderstood him.

But go ahead and attack me anyway.
It makes for good forum discussions. :lol:

P.S. I almost forgot. Did you really shop for a sponsor? I looked for a company.
I knew I would have no help from a "sponsor". I just happen to be incredibly
lucky, and I have a sponsor worth the title. Go figure.
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Re: Would You Want This Person as Your Sponsor?

Postby Juanita Waterman on Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:20 pm

This much I know for sure you are who you hang out with. You may or may not agree. If you hang out with people who believe that it is ok to sell drugs because people are gonna buy them anyway may as well get them from you.
If you say I do not believe in War... but you make a lot of money selling the Machinery or making it. hell someone is going to do it and make money from it might as well be you.
Well Iike I said, you are who you hang out with . Draw your own conclusion.

Most of us did not get to pick our sponsors. As for the people coming to the BN maybe looking for someone to sponsor them. That question is a valid one.

I got plenty of piece of mind about the systems and money and the sweet and the blood of real life People. Watching ruthless people drown the bank accounts of these Newbies and turning around saying it is your fault for Buying my line of copy writing. If you did'nt spend your last 5000 bucks on me you would of just wasted it on someone else. I totally get it. Negativity Sells. Do you still want to be the one selling it? I know I will get in trouble for this. But I am a Conqueror. I will not by the Crack or Sell it! Or hang out with the crowd that does. Just to make a dollar. There is a Better way a Network Marketing Revolution !!!! And it is about exposing the Lies and the Greed and Ego's. So the ones who have dreams can actually be Rescued!
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Re: Would You Want This Person as Your Sponsor?

Postby Dave Kotecki on Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:05 pm

I sell things to make money.

My money is directed toward purposes I deem good after that.

You will never make any considerable amount of money because
your view of economics is skewed.

Therefore, you will never achieve all of the good that you could,
because that takes money.

You will never enrich others by impoverishing yourself.

That's exactly what happens when you give things of value away.
That practice does not enrich the poor, it impoverishes the rich.

Destruction of value makes nobody richer.
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Re: Would You Want This Person as Your Sponsor?

Postby Joyce Penner on Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:21 pm

Dave, I just finished watching Mike Dillards office tour and invite and one thing really stuck out for me which you touched on here. Mike was doing everything his upline was telling him to do without really realizing it was a case of the blind leading the blind. He only made the shift to success when he "bought" books and training. He bought ! He wasn't scrolling around to get something for free. He wanted an education and he went after it. He wanted to get the best training possible so he spent the money to get the best.

Paying for his education has put Mike where he is now.

That speaks volumes.
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Re: Would You Want This Person as Your Sponsor?

Postby Steven Squillace on Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:36 pm

I'll pass on this one Paul negativity no matter where it shows up, is a poison.
Even if I had a person with a hundred people in their downline, I would have to pass on them in taking part in my business. Negativity no matter how you slice it, is a loosing proposition unless of course the person is willing to participate in a personal developement program. Personal developement is not a one time thing it is an ongoing process.

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Re: Would You Want This Person as Your Sponsor?

Postby Peace Worldwide on Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:43 pm

Somehow, this type of person will make you grow stronger in life.

But definitely will not want him/her to as a Sponsor :geek:
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