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Re: Who Else Wants A Lifestyle Friends Will Envy?

Post by jinny on Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:03 am

I have read with much interest all the posts under the heading Who Else Wants A Lifestyle Friends Will Envy?
There have been legitimate points made on both sides of the argument (discussion).
I tend to go along with the idea that the words "greed" and "envy" have negative connotations.
Our motivation should not be due to greed or envy but due to the fact that we want to be the best we can be. What satisfaction is there in having people envy us? I think that's a sign of a person with very low self-esteem.
It really all comes down to our "WHY". Do we just want to boast about having a huge bank account or are we ultimately interested in what we can do with that money....can we put it to good use....can we help our friends and family and our community.
I know, for many, this seems like a foreign idea. But I can assure you, that as you get older, you realize that having a pile of money sitting in the bank does very little for you. Money is a vehicle to enable you to bring happiness to you, your friends and loved ones and people in need.
Some of you might scoff at this....but as I say, once you have a few years under your belt, you will probably come to the same conclusion.
I have proved to myself over and over again, that material possessions and money does not change the person I am inside.
If I am going to be envied....I would like to be envied for being a caring, kind, loving and helpful individual who is happy with the life that God has given me.

Re: Who Else Wants A Lifestyle Friends Will Envy?

Post by gypsy639 on Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:25 am

Hi Arthur. I think you are getting close to the true picture. At no time in my business career spanning nearly fifty years, have I ever knowingly promoted or practiced greed or envy. But as I said in a previous post, I do recognize the world as it is, not the way I would like it to be. That trait has been instrumental in my lifes success and comfortable "Golden Years".

Re: Who Else Wants A Lifestyle Friends Will Envy?

Post by alane27 on Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:04 am

Hey Wally, I just read the entire thread. What I am writing is based on the first page conversation between you and Seth. My reaction to your response was much like his – Wow!

After having thought about it and reading the other posts, I don’t think you have any evil intentions, but you may possibly be misinterpreting the definitions of those words. “Greed and Envy” are not positive words, nor are they associated with anything positive. Look at the definitions below (which are from the Meriam-Webster Online Dictionary)

Greed – A selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed.

Envy – Painful or resentful awareness of an advantage enjoyed by another joined with a desire to possess the same advantage.

I agree that everyone wants more money, and no one gets into this business not to make more money. The reason that “greed” and “envy” are negative is because of the adjectives that begin the definitions; selfish, excessive, painful, and resentful. Do you see anything good or positive in any of those words? I don’t, and that is the point that I believe Seth was trying to make.

I do believe that the base idea of both words is good, and what we all strive for, but the reason for the desires defined in those words is what makes them negative. Building a business based on relationships on a foundation greed and envy, in my humble opinion, is only creating a breeding ground for more people like Bernie Madoff. Is that how you want your business viewed? I do not.

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Re: Who Else Wants A Lifestyle Friends Will Envy?

Post by dkotecki on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:30 am

donniednorton wrote: Greed speaks for itself and nothing really needs to be said about it. Just my opinion.

"Greed is good. Greed works."
Michael Douglas as Gordon Gecko in
the movie "Wall St."

He does a very good job of explaining a lot that
most people don't understand about business and
capitalism and how they work in that speech.

If you've never seen the movie, go rent it.
It's pretty good, even if you don't like the speech.

Re: Who Else Wants A Lifestyle Friends Will Envy?

Post by ChuckBartok on Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:08 am

Wally I appreciate your post regarding "most are not fans of Friedman's philosopy"

Unfortunately the recent generations have grown in an entitlement mentality Society,
which spoon fed Socialistic PAP through the education system.
Evidenced by the concern of Political Correctness.

As a young man growing up in So Cal in the 50's and starting my entrepreneurial
lifestyle I was privileged to meet many exciting Entrepreneurs...
Walter Knott, Disney and several not so famous Hands-on-Business developers.

One trait that stood out to me, their success was motivated by the Strong Desire to SERVE others.
Provide something they Believed would Benefit others.
They followed the traditions presented in Proverbs and even most read Wally Wattles and remembered
Always Deliver more REAL Value than you ever receive in Cash Value

I can't remember anyone motivated by GREED or ENVY.

As long as the population allows their thinking to be done by others,
and learn to regurgitate the Empty Cliches damning the GOD Given
Right to Prosper, those Truly GREEDY individuals who need Total Power to
exist will RULE.

Relating back to the Giants, who helped share my Thought processes,
The more they GAVE the more they GOT, and you have to have something to Give
to get the Engine of true Happiness rolling

Re: Who Else Wants A Lifestyle Friends Will Envy?

Post by donniednorton on Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:08 am

I don't believe that ENVY is a problem in network marketing, the problem comes when envy turns into desperation. When you work your business out of desperation, you are guaranteed to fail. The focus is no longer on helping others it is only on helping yourself as quickly as possible. Envy can sometimes be a great motivator, the same as fear can be a motivator. Greed speaks for itself and nothing really needs to be said about it. Just my opinion.

Re: Who Else Wants A Lifestyle Friends Will Envy?

Post by gypsy639 on Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:41 pm

Tristan, great reply. You just made my case. The only difference is you chose a more PC phrase "Look Up To You"
Thank You, Wally

Re: Who Else Wants A Lifestyle Friends Will Envy?

Post by tristanwyya on Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:41 pm

I don't want my friends to envy me or no one at all. I rather they look up to me and are willing to follow in my footsteps to better themselves and i'll give them a helping hand whenever or wherever they need it.

Tristan Richards

Re: Who Else Wants A Lifestyle Friends Will Envy?

Post by christryon on Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:42 pm

Thank you Joyce and Wally for the kind words. What I am now beginning to realize and wish that I would have realized sooner is that, for the most part, those individuals who live "lives of envy" are very generous individuals. They are the people that are going to bring this country out of its current recession.

They are going to do this by helping other people to be successful. Network marketing works best when people are helping people. You can not do good for someone and feel bad about it. It is impossible. When we all work together for a common good, everyone will benefit. Unfortunately, there are too many people that are lazy and won't do the work that is required. There are a lot of people looking for a quick fix. It is not going to happen.

When you work for someone else, they don't care about you. They are only interested in their bottom line. You can work an entire life-time and never live a "life of envy." In network marketing, with everyone working together to help each other to be successful, you CAN live a "life of envy" in 2-5 years and you will be enjoying life with them. Why you wouldn't do that is what boggles my mind.

Re: Who Else Wants A Lifestyle Friends Will Envy?

Post by DawnConnelly on Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:17 pm

Who doesn't want a lifestyle others will envy? What that question really translates to is "Who wants the lifestyle you've always dreamed of?"

MLM business opportunities are an invisible industry that most don't pay attention to or understand. They are just starting to gain the attention of the likes of Donald Trump, Robert Kiyosaki, and others. I for one am a trial lawyer who swore I'd never touch the MLM industry with a 10 foot pole. But, why wouldn't you want a business where you can work from home, have a residual income, financial independence, and the freedom to live life the way you want to?

So, what do you want to look for in an MLM to gain the lifestyle "friends will envy?" Here are important factors to consider when evaluating the best MLM business opportunity for you.

(1) Is it a ground-level opportunity? We all know of the success of Amway. It has been around for over 50 years and in 2006 brought in over $6.4 billion in sales. But, those who benefitted the most and who are still bringing in a residual income today for their efforts years ago are those who got in early. You want to look for a business opportunity on the ground level. Don't confuse that with one that is brand new. The business opportunity should have been in existence for at least two years.
(2) Is the product something people will want and need? A good way to determine this is to ask yourself if you would buy the product if you were not in the MLM or business that sold it. You want something that has value and that isn't just another energy drink. Look for a product that even when times are tight people will find enough value that they will continue to buy it.
(3) Does the MLM business opportunity have long term viability? As times change and we become more advanced you want to select a company that either is changing with the times or capitalizing on the new movements of the times. Why would someone want to buy a collection of encyclopedia books or a service they can find for free on the Internet? Make sure the company you chose is Internet based or driven.
(4) Does it have a good training program? As with any industry, training is crucial to the success of your home based business. I suggest looking for an MLM business opportunity with Internet training. It is more convenient and generally more affordable. Seminars also have value. They give you an opportunity to network and learn from the top producers as well as the executives in the business.
(5) How much is the start up fee? The rule of thumb is that the start up cost should not exceed $500. Be wary of ones that require you to spend $1,000 or more to get going. You should also investigate the monthly minimum requirements. Make sure you are getting into something that isn't going to stuff your garage with boxes filled with products you'll never use. Your monthly minimum should not exceed a few hundred dollars and should be something with value to you and others.

I hope these tips will help you find the right MLM business opportunity