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Re: The Arbitrage Conspiracy

Post by AndersMan on Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:27 pm

I am in the Arbitrage Conspiracy, now to week 4, and have made some money, and lost some money, but the system works, over all I am up...learning, and excited about what I am learning.

It is challenging for a beginner to keep up, but it is still possible, since I had affiliate marketing experience and I am pretty tech savvy its working out well for me. I have also purchased many other programs, and made great money with most of them. It all comes down to DETERMINATION, and focus...I think it is great that the other guy before got his refund...good for him.

I am now looking for others positive, motivated people that are in the Arbirage Conspiracy, up to date with the training, and beleive in it, who would like to collaborate, share ideas, etc...

If thats you, let me know.

Anders

Re: The Arbitrage Conspiracy

Post by KurtHenninger on Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:10 am

Excellent point on this Jim. For a LONG time, I tried to get by on "free" info passed around on blogs and forums (even great ones like this).

However, my business really started to take off when I decided that I really needed to invest in some training courses, which I did. From there, I ventured into paid advertising and my business began to take off.

Yes, I made the leap and began to treat what I am doing as a real profession with the thought that I needed to invest in myself to to learn real tangible skills which would pay off in the end.

You really need to look at it like an investment in your professional education and not try to do things on the cheap all the time....seriously.

MANY professions even require you to take ongoing education courses to stay up with the most current trends in that particular industry.

While I did not invest in the The Arbitrage Conspiracy course, if I were to go that route, I have no doubt that I would get more than my moneys worth of training materiel in it.

Re: The Arbitrage Conspiracy

Post by jimyaghi on Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:11 pm

I wonder if anyone else checked out Jerry West's course?

My mother is learning CPA under my guidance using PPC. I asked her to check out Jerry's free course...

Now here's the thing: Jerry goes to a great deal of effort to bag out Aymen's work in the Arbitrage Conspiracy. I was actually very fond of what Aymen and his team did in Las Vegas, so perhaps I was biased in Aymen's favour. But in any case, i really wanted to see what Jerry's alternative was. As Raymond mentioned, he released a free CPA course to rectify what he believed were mistakes in Aymen's training.

First of all, nothing is "free" in this world. You have to optin to get it. I expected no less. The guy's a marketer and it's his right to at least get your contact details for future marketing if he's giving you free training.

Each of Jerry's lessons is roughly one page in length. Once a week a new lesson is sent out.

I pass no judgement on the quality of Jerry's work because I have not looked in depth at the course myself.

But for those people who opted for Jerry's free course instead of the $2,000 or so Arbitrage Conspiracy--this is a lesson for you:

YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

Arbitrage Conspiracy was a CPA coaching program. It had an interactive component. You get feedback on your work, Aymen's team look over your campaigns. And for the price, you would expect no less than full fledged video training manuals going over every single aspect of CPA.

It costs an expert team their TIME to create the material and to coach their students. That's why it costs $2,000. That's why they can't give it to you for free.

Jerry can afford to give his for free. Because it takes a lot less time to write you one page of instruction every week.

This has been a pattern in my experience. Today, I no longer buy inexpensive "front end" products. Anything that costs less than $100 is likely to be very general instructions. Grrrreaaat for beginners, but not so useful for someone who is serious about learning a marketing skill.

I hear ya saying, but, "Hey, i don't care about CPA. I am totally committed to my network marketing training".

I know that.

But there's a lesson in this for you Network Marketers.

Many of you claim to want to build your Network Marketing business using social networking and SEO. But you'll only ever read freebie info on blogs where someone is trying to sell their affiliate stuff. Or you'll buy up a whooole bunch of waste of time ebooks someone threw together to make a quick $20.

I dont dismiss the quality of ALL the information out there. Some people are producing honestly genuine quality stuff. But you think about it--if the author of that content makes NOTHING from sharing their expertise--why should they waste their time and reveal their best secrets to their competition?

If it's proper solid information others can use to make money with, the experts can't share it for nothing.

That's why when someone like Aymen comes out with a program that costs some coin, don't put it on the same level as some freebie course. No comparisson. It's not the same thing.

And if you want an example more close to home--Fernando and Raymond right here from our community came out with a coaching program for network marketers who want to learn SEO. You'll be fooling yourself if you think you'll get "better" training from some ebook or blog out there.

Re: The Arbitrage Conspiracy

Post by shecky on Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:28 pm

Bill, Ray, Ferny, etc,

Your points are well taken. For me, the issue is one of FOCUS. Arbitrage is probably great if you want to dedicate a lot of time to it, and truly master it. I've gotten over the hype of this, and submitted my request for a refund. I'm going to focus on my core business, which is what I should have been doing all along.

I made a video on avoiding these types of distractions, and just posted it today:
http://www.betternetworker.com/videos/v ... -the-noise

Thanks to everyone for your input and leadership!

Best,

Shecky

blog: http://www.JeffsBusiness.com
site: http://www.BabyBoomerMLM.com
Twitter: BabyBoomerMLM

Re: The Arbitrage Conspiracy

Post by jinny on Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:37 pm

I looked closely into the Arbitrage Conspiracy when they first introduced it. They did a great PR job getting 150 of the top internet marketers to Vegas. However, the few that I know personally that went have not jumped on the bandwagon. If we are already super successful and are looking for another avenue to pursue, then perhaps we might give it an honest look. However, I doubt that too many of us are at that stage of the game just yet.
The advice I have been given is to recognize my strengths and play to them right now. In the meantime, I can be improving in other areas. I think it is a big mistake to try and spread ourselves too thin.
I feel that I am being inundated with promotions. What I have done is choose the areas that I think I can excel in, choose a mentor/teacher in each of those categories, and put my emphasis there.
I agree with the previous posts about working on branding ourselves. We need to create a presence of our own on the Internet. Just type your own name in quotes into Google search and see how many hits you get. This will give you an idea as to how well you are currently branded on the Internet. Try it -- you might actually be pleasantly surprised. I sure was!! I have nearly 1000 hits and I have only been in network marketing since November, 2008. That's what we need to work on.
Jan Shimano

Re: The Arbitrage Conspiracy

Post by san on Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:44 pm

Susi

Don't be put off. I'm sure the information will bring you in money as long as you apply what you learn. Just don't be tempted to try and compete with the big boys straight out of the starting gate. AC will be no different to any other system - it will take time and effort to learn - the results will be based on how much of what you learn you actually put into action.

Re: The Arbitrage Conspiracy

Post by Susi on Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:51 pm

Well, dang!

NOW I read all these warning messages!

A December full of fun cross-country travel for fun family events, but alas, between tight schedules and extremely limited internet access, (except, of course, to the Siren Song of AC--lol!), I didn't see BN or these warnings until an hour ago!

Dang, again! I could've had a V-8!

My budget IS tight, I AM having to scrape to afford it, and I'm a PRIME buyer (er, sucker?) for ALL the shiny toys out there. Dang on me! Well, hopefully, the AC info, and my limited budget will meld asap and SOME income will come of it. For me, not for them.....

I did wonder why I didn't see Mike's name in any of the hoopla......

Gotta run,

Susi.

Re: The Arbitrage Conspiracy

Post by Raymond Fong on Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:39 pm

Okay, so Jerry West just released his CPA course. As far as I know, it's for free, all you have to do is opt in here: http://www.webmarketingnow.com/tips/cpa-marketing.html

If nothing else, no matter which side of the fence on this whole Arbitrate Conspiracy issue is, that page is worth a read. It's got some very important lessons concerning marketing and getting caught up in the hype.

Raymond Fong

Re: The Arbitrage Conspiracy

Post by Dr D on Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:31 pm

Thanks, ofnet. I don't have to imagine what it is like to jump on every new trend until I'm so confused that I don't know my own name - I've been there (okay, I did still know my name). This is why I am so grateful for finding BN.

I actually bought the MS system TWICE. It was one of those new shiny things both times, and I let myself get distracted by other things each time. Now I realize the wisdom of exactly what you advised: Focus on one thing, get good at it, then add to it if need be. Mike's MS system is the best vehicle among all the programs that I have encountered, and its power to harness MLM the right way is just what I have been looking for and found twice.

At least I have a great story. Mine isn't waiting tables or washing cars, inter alia, before becoming a successful entrepreneur, like so many others that Mike has written about, including himself. Mine is, "I was foolish until I discovered..." And it will be a GREAT story pretty soon. Now all I have to do is develop one good relationship, then another and another, until I sell my first book, then another and another. This is exciting!

All the best,
Dennis Clark
(still working on my signature...stay tuned)

Re: The Arbitrage Conspiracy

Post by ofnet776 on Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:52 pm

The thing is, nearly everyday there will be a "new shiny thing" that either does it better or does it faster than what you are currently using. As we are all intrigued by the "new shiny thing", it doesn't remove the one principle that runs through out this industry and most others out there. The grass truly isn't greener on the other side of the fence it just looks like it is from this angle. Nothing is ever going to replace the building of relationships and that is the core of any industry's business and internet marketing is not different at all. The one thing we have to remember is that everyone we are trying to "sell" is just like us in many respects, but with a few less miles on. They are looking for someone they can trust to shine a light on some techniques and make some money.

You have to ask yourself are you going to continue looking for the next "new shiny thing" or be satisfied with the source that you are getting mentored from and build on that. Can you imagine if you jumped on every new trend and before long you would be so confused that you wouldn't know your name. my suggestion is find one that works and delete the rest until you find yourself running up against the wall stopping your progress.

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