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Re: Is moving a penalized domain to a new domain beneficial?

Post by pratikdholakiya on Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:47 am

betsycz wrote:Concretely, you should do the following:

1) look at the links pointing to your site in webmaster tools
2) visit each site
3) look for obvious paid links or where you are being targeted with paid links from a malicious campaign
4) ask them to remove the links or add a no follow attribution reminding them that you do not buy links and that you cannot control who links to you.
5) re-submit for reconsideration.


Hey Betsy,

Thanks for your advice and sharing the message by James Schramko.

We are already working on the points that you have mentioned and have got success in removing links from many websites as well.

Let me know if you have something else to work on.

Re: Is moving a penalized domain to a new domain beneficial?

Post by pratikdholakiya on Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:27 am

mlsanders wrote:I have two comments to your discussion.
First, clear up any problems to your domain with Google. There has been a problem that have not been addressed when you started your domain and it was never corrected. Google now sees this as a violation of their guidelines.
Second, if you go to another domain site, you may be facing the same problem without even knowing what the first problem was. Then you may be in violation of another website domain guidelines.
You only complicate things when nothing has beeen corrected and you continue doing the same things as before.
Little story; a vehicle keeps getting stopped and driver ticketed as the vehicle goes through each county. If the driver was stopped for speeding, that's one problem. If the driver violated the stop sign ordinance, that's another. Improper turn is another. What caught the attention of the officers was a taillight was out.
People speed, run stop sign, make improper turns without raising any attention of law enforcements.
Clear up your domain and get it straight to have no further problems to keep you from making money.


Thanks Mario,

I totally agree with your words. That's really helpful to know about the example that you shared. During my research, I also found that it's paining. Moving a penalized domain to a new one is a new pain nothing else.

I have heard that if the domain's link building is clean of past 4-8 months then probably 301 redirection might help since Google will identify fresh link building initially. BUT this is nothing lesser than a new trouble for the website.

Re: Is moving a penalized domain to a new domain beneficial?

Post by betsycz on Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:25 pm

I am sorry to hear about your problem.

The answer is that no - moving it to a new domain will not help.

There were 700,000 of these messages sent out.

According to people I know, of the ones they know about.
The sites are all still indexed and these are a warning
rather than a de-indexing.

Google is rolling out its SEO over-optimization
campaign.

I am part of a great Internet Marketing forum with James Schramko. This is what he says.

If your site is still indexed then it is just a warning.
They are fishing for information to help them go
hunting.

You most likely got these warnings from links from paid
blog networks.
(AMA, BMR, Blogging Underground)

The best thing to do is to make sure you have natural
links without keyword anchor text coming to your
site.

For our sites we are issuing press releases with varied
anchor text. Also we are adding info graphics to increase
viral sharing.

If you have had links from de-indexed blog networks like BMR
then they should drop out of the links window in a few
days. If they turn off the site then it will drop from the
index. I have noticed the offending links dropped off from
our webmaster tools linking notes.

Google are clear about what they want - quality content and
quality content distribution (social, viral, useful).

The threat of BING search engine market share and Facebook
etc.... forces the Google index to have to be better.

They have more reliance on data points than ever before and
a general sweep is designed to spread fear and to cause link sellers
to stop selling links. I would say it is working well for them.

Concretely, you should do the following:

1) look at the links pointing to your site in webmaster tools
2) visit each site
3) look for obvious paid links or where you are being targeted with paid links from a malicious campaign
4) ask them to remove the links or add a no follow attribution reminding them that you do not buy links and that you cannot control who links to you.
5) re-submit for reconsideration.

Good luck.
Betsy

Re: Is moving a penalized domain to a new domain beneficial?

Post by mlsanders on Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:20 pm

I have two comments to your discussion.
First, clear up any problems to your domain with Google. There has been a problem that have not been addressed when you started your domain and it was never corrected. Google now sees this as a violation of their guidelines.
Second, if you go to another domain site, you may be facing the same problem without even knowing what the first problem was. Then you may be in violation of another website domain guidelines.
You only complicate things when nothing has beeen corrected and you continue doing the same things as before.
Little story; a vehicle keeps getting stopped and driver ticketed as the vehicle goes through each county. If the driver was stopped for speeding, that's one problem. If the driver violated the stop sign ordinance, that's another. Improper turn is another. What caught the attention of the officers was a taillight was out.
People speed, run stop sign, make improper turns without raising any attention of law enforcements.
Clear up your domain and get it straight to have no further problems to keep you from making money.

Is moving a penalized domain to a new domain beneficial?

Post by pratikdholakiya on Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:49 am

Recently one of my clients’ high authority website has got penalized with the reason of Unnatural/Suspicious link data.

After getting message from Google for this unnatural links data, we checked our links profile and then we shared our concerns with Google in detail through filing website reconsideration request. We also shared the links data that we are unable to control.

After more than 2 weeks of filing the reconsideration request, we got feedback from Google with the same message of that our link profile still violates Google’s quality guidelines. Here is the message for reference:-

Dear site owner or webmaster of http://www.xyz.com/,

We received a request from a site owner to reconsider http://www.xyz.com/ for compliance with Google's Webmaster Guidelines.

We've reviewed your site and we still see links to your site that violate our quality guidelines.

Specifically, look for possibly artificial or unnatural links pointing to your site that could be intended to manipulate PageRank. Examples of unnatural linking could include buying links to pass PageRank or participating in link schemes.

We encourage you to make changes to comply with our quality guidelines. Once you've made these changes, please submit your site for reconsideration in Google's search results.

If you find unnatural links to your site that you are unable to control or remove, please provide the details in your reconsideration request.

If you have additional questions about how to resolve this issue, please see our Webmaster Help Forum for support.

Sincerely,
Google Search Quality Team


Now we are thinking of moving our entire website to a new domain (focusing 301 redirection) according to Google’s guidelines mentioned here - http://support.google.com/webmaster...en&answer=83105

Now my question is will the new domain also get penalized if we redirect penalized domain to it? OR Is there any possibility to get the rankings back on the new domain?

Please do share your experience/thoughts.

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