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Re: network marketers are NOT your primary target market

Post by steverodgers on Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:20 pm

ozlat wrote:who do yo think requires more education... the white or blue collar ??


Ah... thank you for asking that question.

Do you want the long or short answer? :)

Being a former landscaper myself, from a totally blue collar background, I can tell you the learning curve has been steep for me. I also mentioned that my upline split the company at a very crucial part of that learning curve. So it hasn't been all cupcakes and Mojito's for me, if you can imagine.

I will say this... I believe the internet has changed the game for everyone.

There are college students who could step into this game today and in a few months, totally outperform some of the 'old schoolers' who have not yet cut their teeth as far as the internet goes.

Granted alot of those old schoolers could teach us all a thing or two aout mindset, posture and determination, but I've got a 16 year old cousin who produces his own online videos that have already recieved over a million views.

We'd all kill for that kind of exposure.

I actually plan on interviewing the little punk ;)

So to answer your question... I believe that either group is equally capable o succeeding, but both groups have two entirely different skill sets to learn.

I will say that I think we'll all begin to see a new breed of "naturals" cropping up in the next few years who are the total package. I'm going to focus on positioning myself as someone who can help others postion themselves for that crop.

Re: network marketers are NOT your primary target market

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Re: network marketers are NOT your primary target market

Post by Guest on Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm

well said... and some posts earlier it seems that people are already doing that and targeting people that aren't in the industry, but have cash to spare, such as white collar workers... let's not leave blue collar workers out of it either, who do yo think requires more education... the white or blue collar ??

Re: network marketers are NOT your primary target market

Post by steverodgers on Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:19 pm

ozlat wrote:maybe it's a good idea not to limit yourself to one target market, and tailor different campaigns for different markets...


Now you're talking!

Just bear in mind that you'll have to market different to each segment.

If you're marketing to non- networkers, you'll have to market to them in an introductory manner about the industry. You'll also have to get used to countering more objections from that crowd, but like I mentioned earlier, with the 'economic downturn', the 'special' ones will be more open to the dialogue.

If you could set up a nice greasy funnel that moves them from the 'okay, you've got my attention' stage to the 'I NEED to get involved in this industry" stage, then I think you'll be in good shape.

May be a longer process, but that's a hella good time for relationship building.

All in all, it comes down to offering value, but offerng it the appropriate way, in language they understand (use).

Go get em'
-Steve

Re: network marketers are NOT your primary target market

Post by Guest on Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:59 am

steverodgers wrote:
SupremeGene wrote:But when was the last time you called your upline?

It's important that you understand that people do what they have to do to keep building their business. When downline members don't stay in touch, sponsors usally just figure that you're not in the game anymore.

Give them a shout. You might be surprised at how willing they are to assist you when they know you're doing your all.


great point that you have brought up, hasn't been mentioned yet... as a downline member you have just as much responsibility to plug into your upline, as they have the responsibility to train you on a regular basis... what's that saying, "it takes two to tango"

at what point in time should the training stop? when your downline is starting to recruit like a pro? when your downline becomes efficient at training their downline to recruit like a pro? or never?

Re: network marketers are NOT your primary target market

Post by steverodgers on Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:57 pm

SupremeGene wrote:My sponser has not called me since I paid for my kit. I have been on my own, searching, reading, getting all the free information I can, there is a lot of it.


It's great that you've been searching out knowledge on your own. That's definitely commendable.

But when was the last time you called your upline?

It's important that you understand that people do what they have to do to keep building their business. When downline members don't stay in touch, sponsors usally just figure that you're not in the game anymore.

Give them a shout. You might be surprised at how willing they are to assist you when they know you're doing your all.

My entire upline left jumped into another opportunity at a critical time in my learning. I no longer have them to get mentoring from. You should sieze the opportunity while it's there.

Best
-Steve

Re: network marketers are NOT your primary target market

Post by Guest on Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:52 pm

SupremeGene wrote:My sponser has not called me since I paid for my kit. I have been on my own, searching, reading, getting all the free information I can, there is a lot of it. People buy more kits looking for an easy way to deal with network marketing, what they find is either a knack for it or a loss. I think you have to be a people person for sure, I have that down, I am just trying to learn the ropes.[/b]


that's an excellent example of sponsors being lazy, non-leaders, playing the numbers game, and most definitely in the industry to make a quick buck without being an asset to the industry... i mean no disrespect to yourself but i would have to say you are an orphaned network marketer

you have been enrolled and left to fend for yourself without the proper support and team structure that is crucial to your success as a network marketer, there are only 2 ways for you to survive... become a leader or file for adoption and fly right past your sponsor

Re: network marketers are NOT your primary target market

Post by Guest on Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:45 pm

rperales wrote:
I personally prefer buyers first wether through advertising or buying a list but hey, that's
just me because it always works for me..

When such buyer ask me after I invite them to join "what do I have to do if I join?"
get people to buy and then ask them to join..If the product is great and if they plan
to continue to buy..they might as well join to get the product wholesale..hence, I
have a downline that will buy every month and guess what happens?..

rey


that's an excellent point as companies that don't have a valid product that people consume are usually referred to as scams... the product is always a vital part for the whole system (and the industry) to work

how zoned in do you get with your marketing? or do you mass market? what sort of lists do you target? are they general 'industry' lists? or lists of people that have bought similar products online/through mail order/etc with a credit card in the last 3 months (targeted type)?

Re: network marketers are NOT your primary target market

Post by SupremeGene on Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:23 pm

4. i'm not a huge fan of wishful thinking, so if you may or may not have a huge downline that may or may not follow you isn't a real selling point... my goal isn't to find as many people as i can to make money off ................ I am not a fan of wishful thinking either

5. it's not a numbers game, it's a relationship game... i can handle people coming and going but it merely shows a lack of relationship building and a lack of team which creates loyalty and long term results............... I wish everyone felt this way.

6. everyone begins as a newbie, no matter what you do in life you begin a newbie... this includes you and me and mike and everyone else that has ever done anything in life.......I am a newbie, I am a POOR newbie. I made the investment into ONE business, I have learned so much in three months, but I still have so much to learn. My sponser has not called me since I paid for my kit. I have been on my own, searching, reading, getting all the free information I can, there is a lot of it. People buy more kits looking for an easy way to deal with network marketing, what they find is either a knack for it or a loss. I think you have to be a people person for sure, I have that down, I am just trying to learn the ropes.

Re: network marketers are NOT your primary target market

Post by forestmarie on Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:57 pm

gailsreps wrote:i think it is at a crucial point in this thread to quote Mike Dillard here....
he writes in his ebook :
" if you ever think you can build a long term successful network marketing business without spending the majority of your time interacting with people personally each day, you are mistaken. We may use the internet as an advertising medium, but this industry is always about personal relationships in the end".

AMEN TO THAT MIKE!!


Great quote.

Definitely one that needs to be constantly posted and engrained into everyone.

Forest

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