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Re: money vs. morality

Post by David Bouchez on Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:28 pm

:D :D :D

saved72907 wrote:"A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and gold."
Proverbs 22:1

Re: money vs. morality

Post by saved72907 on Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:14 pm

"A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and gold."
Proverbs 22:1

Re: money vs. morality

Post by David Bouchez on Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:13 am

I'm pretty sure that everyone here agrees that integrity is paramount and honesty is super important in business.

The sad part is that many people are pushing products (unfortunately sometimes in this forum as well)that are based on the lies of some "guru" who knows just enough to snow people into buying and promoting his products.

It's up to us, as marketers to see and understand the actual research behind some of these products and systems. Feeling warm fuzzies because someone is charismatic and makes good videos is not a reason to support them - even if you can make money for a while doing so.

We're all responsible not to be duped by the mountains of trash out there, so that we're not sucking others into the same traps that we're falling into ourselves.

Social proof is good, but not if it's based upon propaganda and a popularity contest.

Personal responsibility = personal integrity

lukash wrote:how do you deal with moral self when building up your business? are you willing to lie in order to gain more money, more leads, more traffic, etc.?

Re: money vs. morality

Post by procapital on Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:57 am

CharlesAmith wrote:@Tony - Hype and lying are 2 different things for me


I agree with Tony, hype is just a form of lying, lying=exaggeration=lying


CharlesAmith wrote:Here's an example of system hype: "All you have to do is follow our system. It's proven to work!"

That's probably the truth, but what bugs me is how well does it work. Using a duplicatable system, you should be able to get some statistics.


CharlesAmith wrote:It's pretty obvious, but there's a lot of BS pushed to make somebody believe that they really do have a chance just by using a play of words. That's what I mean by hype...and that's the difference between hype and lying.


A good system is perfect, the x factor is the individual, if a person has the wrong mindset, no consistency, no persistence, no focus...the system will never work.

I have an example, we have a terrible weight problem in the US, the system to correct it is simple, eat less garbage, eat better, exercise at least 20 minutes a day 4-5 times a week, drink more water, learn to relax, sleep 7-8 hour, supplement with high quality nutrients, The system is perfect, it works on anybody who is relatively healthy, however, we still have more than 65% of the population overweight and growing, why? is it hype to say that the system works?

George Ruiz

Re: money vs. morality

Post by ruth_farr on Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:40 am

In order to create real and lasting wealth, people have to tell the truth.I really believe that when people try to work around these simple rules, they lose. Reputation is everything in a home business, as people are often buying into you, not just the products you promote :)

Re: money vs. morality

Post by procapital on Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:32 am

CharlesAmith wrote:I'm not sure about this statistically, but out of the all of the NM companies I've looked into, 100% of them used hype. While hype may not be what people logically want, hype sells on the emotional side. There's extreme hype and minimal hype...and it's not always dependent on the company - it depends on which person is actually selling.

Charles


I don't agree, I would say that many companies are not into hype, if you find hype is mostly in some distributors. Hype only attract people who are looking for an easy way out, real seekers can see what is real or not.

Saying that, yes, there are companies that are into hype but they are walking a dangerous path of self destruction that will caught with them sooner or later.

George Ruiz

Re: money vs. morality

Post by procapital on Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:26 am

Lying is not an option, some lie? yes, but eventually they will be find out. The best way to build is based on honesty, not only you can build fast, but more solid. The problem I see today is that with many gurus teaching about branding many forgot, conveniently to tell people not to lie, it is why we see so many self-proclaim experts lying about their experience leading a lot of people to failure.

George Ruiz

lukash wrote:how do you deal with moral self when building up your business? are you willing to lie in order to gain more money, more leads, more traffic, etc.?

Re: money vs. morality

Post by JRDingman on Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:10 am

I totally agree with you Patti! ;)

Re: money vs. morality

Post by EwanRobb on Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:09 am

always, do the right thing

Re: money vs. morality

Post by wedidyoucan on Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:25 pm

Why would anyone lie to build their business, that would not help build the long term income we are all working towards.

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