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Re: Are you honest? Do you have integrity? Being authentic?

Post by JoycePenner on Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:26 am

Hi Donatello. I love your name: Gift of God.

That's the hard part when you are online - getting your name known. It's hard work and so sorry to say but most people have been hurt so many times by someone who promises something and then can't or won't deliver that they've gotten skeptical, hardened by repeated failures.

Keep working, let the real you shine through, continue to learn and you will succeed.
Good luck Donatello !
Joyce

Re: Are you honest? Do you have integrity? Being authentic?

Post by donatellobutler on Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:05 am

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Re: Are you honest? Do you have integrity? Being authentic?

Post by JoycePenner on Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:40 am

jeromera wrote:Integrity is absolutely essential when it comes to building a business. Whatever the state anyone is in within their business (new or veteran), they need to remember to not be someone they are not.

We all hear "fake it 'til you make it" but it often comes across as "lie until you make it". For the newbies this a hard concept to grasp because they aspire to be someone they are not so they believe they need to fake it so much that they try and trick someone into believing they are successful in the home business arena.

Anyone who has approached building their business this way hasn't been coached in what it really takes to build a successful business. In fact, it's actually jeopardizing their business from moving forward because if they trick anyone into signing up into their business, that new person will soon find out it was all a lie. This creates a bad name for them and for network marketing which isn't good for any of us.

If they are new and approaching people, not only should they offer up value to the other person but also to make them aware that they have a team (upline/crossline/etc.) here to support them and they too will have the same available to them.

Way to go Joyce, I agree with your approach - 100%.

Jerome Ratliff


Hi Jerome. They will be caught out eventually but it still makes me mad that people are taking advantage of someone else (Intentially or unintentionally). I teamed up with Richard Bravo and we dug into each other so deep to make sure we were completely on the same page, every step of the way it was almost laughable. But we both knew the core of what we wanted as we worked together was those 3 things: honesty, integrity and authenticity between us and within our team.
Awesome stuff,
Joyce

Re: Are you honest? Do you have integrity? Being authentic?

Post by jeromera on Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:47 pm

Integrity is absolutely essential when it comes to building a business. Whatever the state anyone is in within their business (new or veteran), they need to remember to not be someone they are not.

We all hear "fake it 'til you make it" but it often comes across as "lie until you make it". For the newbies this a hard concept to grasp because they aspire to be someone they are not so they believe they need to fake it so much that they try and trick someone into believing they are successful in the home business arena.

Anyone who has approached building their business this way hasn't been coached in what it really takes to build a successful business. In fact, it's actually jeopardizing their business from moving forward because if they trick anyone into signing up into their business, that new person will soon find out it was all a lie. This creates a bad name for them and for network marketing which isn't good for any of us.

If they are new and approaching people, not only should they offer up value to the other person but also to make them aware that they have a team (upline/crossline/etc.) here to support them and they too will have the same available to them.

Way to go Joyce, I agree with your approach - 100%.

Jerome Ratliff

Re: Are you honest? Do you have integrity? Being authentic?

Post by JoycePenner on Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:39 pm

Jared_Brown wrote:I appreciate articles likes this. There are alot of people claiming to be so-called leaders in this industry when they are not. Its good to see someone speak out about this.


I'm hearing that a lot. People are searching for something and it's not another person claiming to be something they are not.
Thanks for putting it in print!
Joyce

Re: Are you honest? Do you have integrity? Being authentic?

Post by Jared_Brown on Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:23 am

I appreciate articles likes this. There are alot of people claiming to be so-called leaders in this industry when they are not. Its good to see someone speak out about this.

Re: Are you honest? Do you have integrity? Being authentic?

Post by Stephen Meyer on Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:37 pm

Hi Joyce (again) I don't see you as being harsh at all, just giving a point of view. Unfortunately the truth/fact is, most who are dishonest will never see what you wrote.

I have a different take on the industry in that I don't see much wrong with it at all. I don't believe MLM has a bad reputation because of scammers. Much like affiliate marketing where the failure rate is also around 95% people fail because they do not stay focused and consistent. They can blame others but the truth is usually different. There isn't a program out there or a person out there who is going to make someone successful. Never has been and never will be. As a matter of fact people don't need anyone else. Most are capable all by themselves. They either don't believe it or are afraid of it and never give it an honest try.

Re: Are you honest? Do you have integrity? Being authentic?

Post by JoycePenner on Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:47 am

I love that poem and so applicable.

Most of what I see is not the Bernie's of the world, it seems to be the undeducated teaching the uneducated that posture is getting out there and taking the pictures in front of this mansion pretending it's yours, talk about how successful you are when you're not, imply or refer to "your team" as if you've built this huge downline in your primary when in fact ........ !

Most are doing it unknowingly or don't realize what they are doing is wrong.

This business has the reputation it has because of crap like that. WE need to stop it ! This is the best, most fantastic industry we will ever find and those with integrity need to get more vocal about stopping the erroneous misconceptions that others are taught to disperse as OK marketing techniques.

Have I been harsh? Yes. And some will stop and look in the mirror and see what they are doing (unknowingly, unwittingly) perhaps just to simply question themselves: is this slant or this information accurate? If not, stop and become a part of the best industry instead of destroying it.
Joyce

Re: Are you honest? Do you have integrity? Being authentic?

Post by Nemo on Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:20 am

A little girl say to her mother:
Mummy do fairy stories always begin with "Once upon a time......"

And the mother replies:
No darling sometimes they begin with:
"When I am elected......."

Yes, there are lies everywhere, we see and hear them on television, in the news and in the commercials, we tell them to people that we know when they say things like "How does my hair look?" and we say that it looks good when we really dont like it or our 4 year old says "when do babies come from" or a very ill person says "will I get better?"....these are what I consider 'acceptable lies...

But then there are LIES!
Lies that are simply lies, like the lies that Bernie Madoff and countless others tell to mislead and decieve others, told purely for gain and greed...and they are told by people that will usually not even acknowledge that that are telling lies....they even lie to them selves and won't admit it.

We must all set out own standards:

If
by Rudyard Kipling

IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

regards Jim T




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Re: Are you honest? Do you have integrity? Being authentic?

Post by JoycePenner on Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:07 am

HA ! Totally agree with you. But here's the context of where that statement or definition came in.

WHAT NOT TO DO:

1.) Don’t make claims that are not true. Read something recently where someone had posted you could make a 6 figure income in 30 to 90 days if you just clicked here and signed up. Pure, unadulterated BS. (Excuse the language)

2.) Don’t make claims about your team, implying you have built this large business when in fact all you are doing is spinning who has signed up with some affiliate program you are associated with.

3.) Don’t claim you are some great leader or how successful you are or how you can do this or that now that you are successful (?). Reserve that for when you truly do reach an impressive income.


I don't care where someone is on their path: just be honest about it !
Thanks for the feedback, Stephen, I love it.
Joyce

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