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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

Postby Harry Fassett on Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:00 pm

Robert, just curious; what's the attrition rate for each Company and speed of attrition over say a 90 to 180 day period?


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Sorry for the large post...but I am pretty sure you all will forgive me for what is involved :

YOU MUST FOCUS IN THE BIG PLAYERS...at least that is my humble opinion:

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Top MLM Companies
MLM / Home Based Business Popularity Top Gainers

Based on percentage increase in our last sampling period.

# 1 Talk Fusion
132.98% Gain

# 2 Javita
116.08% Gain

# 3 Rexair, Inc
112.00% Gain

# 4 ViSalus
99.77% Gain

# 5 Jordan Essentials
93.06% Gain

# 6 Wealth Masters International
81.57% Gain

# 7 VIVIANE
77.77% Gain

# 8 Youngevity
73.76% Gain

# 9 SISEL International
69.29% Gain

# 10 Genesis Pure
68.30% Gain

# 11 Southern Living at Home
64.05% Gain

# 12 Lifes Abundance
63.40% Gain

# 13 Numis Network
62.16% Gain

# 14 LifeMax
59.75% Gain

# 15 ENRICH INTERNATIONAL
57.25% Gain

# 16 MyVideoTalk
53.74% Gain

# 17 Jewel Kade
50.15% Gain

# 18 Vitamark International
49.43% Gain

# 19 SoulPurpose
46.44% Gain

# 20 AGLOCO
46.15% Gain

# 21 Lightyear Wireless
44.12% Gain

# 22 Life Force International
43.59% Gain

# 23 Nikken, Inc.
41.48% Gain

# 24 Nutrition for Life International
40.79% Gain

# 25 Bellamora
40.33% Gain

# 26 Princess House
39.94% Gain

# 27 Rena Ware International
39.91% Gain

# 28 Global Health Trax
37.66% Gain

# 29 cPRIME
36.49% Gain

# 30 AliveMax
35.32% Gain

# 31 AtHome America
34.49% Gain

# 32 isXPERIA
34.36% Gain

# 33 Watkins
33.27% Gain

# 34 AmeriSciences
33.12% Gain

# 35 Zija International
32.67% Gain

# 36 WorldVentures
31.83% Gain

# 37 LifePath Unlimited
31.75% Gain

# 38 Yipiz
31.33% Gain

# 39 CELL TECH
31.08% Gain

# 40 YTBTravel
30.80% Gain

# 41 Omnitrition International, Inc.
30.63% Gain

# 42 Acai Plus
29.82% Gain

# 43 Gold Canyon Candle Co
29.75% Gain

# 44 Vorwerk USA
29.56% Gain

# 45 Wela
29.26% Gain

# 46 Passion Parties
28.63% Gain

# 47 Jusuru
28.45% Gain

# 48 Vemma
28.08% Gain

# 49 PartyLite
27.58% Gain

# 50 Nature's Sunshine Products
27.20% Gain

Be well,

Roger Aburto
P.S. Ohh yeah...if you want to jump in with the leaders yes the #1...yes Talk Fusion PM me and will help you to get in the right track
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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

Postby Harry Fassett on Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:06 pm

Robert, just curious; what's the attrition rate for each Company and speed of attrition over say a 90 to 180 day period?


LeadCaptureCoach wrote:Hello! You all!
Sorry for the large post...but I am pretty sure you all will forgive me for what is involved :

YOU MUST FOCUS IN THE BIG PLAYERS...at least that is my humble opinion:

mlm opportunity
The Best Internet Resource for Ranking MLM and Home Business Opportunities by Public Interest
Top MLM Companies
MLM / Home Based Business Popularity Top Gainers

Based on percentage increase in our last sampling period.

# 1 Talk Fusion
132.98% Gain

# 2 Javita
116.08% Gain

# 3 Rexair, Inc
112.00% Gain

# 4 ViSalus
99.77% Gain

# 5 Jordan Essentials
93.06% Gain

# 6 Wealth Masters International
81.57% Gain

# 7 VIVIANE
77.77% Gain

# 8 Youngevity
73.76% Gain

# 9 SISEL International
69.29% Gain

# 10 Genesis Pure
68.30% Gain

# 11 Southern Living at Home
64.05% Gain

# 12 Lifes Abundance
63.40% Gain

# 13 Numis Network
62.16% Gain

# 14 LifeMax
59.75% Gain

# 15 ENRICH INTERNATIONAL
57.25% Gain

# 16 MyVideoTalk
53.74% Gain

# 17 Jewel Kade
50.15% Gain

# 18 Vitamark International
49.43% Gain

# 19 SoulPurpose
46.44% Gain

# 20 AGLOCO
46.15% Gain

# 21 Lightyear Wireless
44.12% Gain

# 22 Life Force International
43.59% Gain

# 23 Nikken, Inc.
41.48% Gain

# 24 Nutrition for Life International
40.79% Gain

# 25 Bellamora
40.33% Gain

# 26 Princess House
39.94% Gain

# 27 Rena Ware International
39.91% Gain

# 28 Global Health Trax
37.66% Gain

# 29 cPRIME
36.49% Gain

# 30 AliveMax
35.32% Gain

# 31 AtHome America
34.49% Gain

# 32 isXPERIA
34.36% Gain

# 33 Watkins
33.27% Gain

# 34 AmeriSciences
33.12% Gain

# 35 Zija International
32.67% Gain

# 36 WorldVentures
31.83% Gain

# 37 LifePath Unlimited
31.75% Gain

# 38 Yipiz
31.33% Gain

# 39 CELL TECH
31.08% Gain

# 40 YTBTravel
30.80% Gain

# 41 Omnitrition International, Inc.
30.63% Gain

# 42 Acai Plus
29.82% Gain

# 43 Gold Canyon Candle Co
29.75% Gain

# 44 Vorwerk USA
29.56% Gain

# 45 Wela
29.26% Gain

# 46 Passion Parties
28.63% Gain

# 47 Jusuru
28.45% Gain

# 48 Vemma
28.08% Gain

# 49 PartyLite
27.58% Gain

# 50 Nature's Sunshine Products
27.20% Gain

Be well,

Roger Aburto
P.S. Ohh yeah...if you want to jump in with the leaders yes the #1...yes Talk Fusion PM me and will help you to get in the right track
Harry Fassett - Founder of Amazines.com has been a SEO/SEM Specialist since 1995. Currently an Independent "Consumer for Charity" http://www.day1charitydonation.com
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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

Postby Roger Aburto on Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:12 pm

Harry.Hi!

You know...I do not know...I will try to find out...but this info is generally speaking classified.

What I do know though is ...that in this kind of MLM like Talk Fusion the attrition is not as violent like in the pills and 60 dollars bottle of Gatorade...(miracle juices).

But let's assume for a minute that you take two fat men...and you put them in regime where they both will lose 40% of their current weight...what would happen if the man #1 start the regime at 340 pounds andnthe man #2 start at 300...when you apply to both men the 40% loss of weight...the man #1 still is heavier than the man #2 right...meaning? That Talk Fusion will still would be the heavy weight champion of the MLM world...after you apply the attrition rate in the industry.

But Harry I will try to find out the answer to your question...and thank you for your that.

Be well,

Roger Aburto
P.S When I was in the pills and cool aid business ...I was under lots of pressure...because every time my wife opened a cabinet a bag of pills droped on her head...and all my drawers still full of 60 dollars Cool aid bottles...who can stand a squirrel a day? The best decision was to quit rather quickly.Yes you are right I am not good at that kind of MLM companies.
P.P.S Excuse my bad English...I hope some day I will be able ti write and speak really good English.
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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

Postby Harry Fassett on Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:20 pm

Talkfusion looks great for tech savvy, but like many online only type of businesses/tools, 40% of the market is missed that is either A) not comfortable with technology, or B) not online much at all and don't care for such tools for business online. Great tools tough, although I think youtube has made video email obsolete. So, with that being said...

As I stated on my social media sites: Note; Snackhealthy is a category creator and doesn't compete with vitamins, juices, powders, or other supplements. You simply open the delicious snacks and eat them. Of course the popcorn you micro and shakes you mix quick but heck, other than that you're good to go! :0) Oh, and the CEO is a women for all the ladies who like that fact. :0)

LeadCaptureCoach wrote:Harry.Hi!

You know...I do not know...I will try to find out...but this info is generally speaking classified.

What I do know though is ...that in this kind of MLM like Talk Fusion the attrition is not as violent like in the pills and 60 dollars bottle of Gatorade...(miracle juices).

But let's assume for a minute that you take two fat men...and you put them in regime where they both will lose 40% of their current weight...what would happen if the man #1 start the regime at 340 pounds andnthe man #2 start at 300...when you apply to both men the 40% loss of weight...the man #1 still is heavier than the man #2 right...meaning? That Talk Fusion will still would be the heavy weight champion of the MLM world...after you apply the attrition rate in the industry.

But Harry I will try to find out the answer to your question...and thank you for your that.

Be well,

Roger Aburto
P.S When I was in the pills and cool aid business ...I was under lots of pressure...because every time my wife opened a cabinet a bag of pills droped on her head...and all my drawers still full of 60 dollars Cool aid bottles...who can stand a squirrel a day? The best decision was to quit rather quickly.Yes you are right I am not good at that kind of MLM companies.
P.P.S Excuse my bad English...I hope some day I will be able ti write and speak really good English.
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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

Postby Donnie Norton on Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:27 am

It will be interesting to see the results 5 years down the road.
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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

Postby Val Heisey on Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:41 am

donniednorton wrote:It will be interesting to see the results 5 years down the road.
there is no secret to success
Joyce, this is so true but we are lead to believe that there are many secrets to success. You can see it anywhere on the web. There is only one true way to success and Nike beat us to it many years ago " just do it " There are many things involved in "just do it " such as follow up, picking up that 500lb telephone, consistency, self improvement, teaching and the list goes on but none of these things are secrets just time proven things that produce results. Just my two cents worth.


True, True, True... it really is as simple as that! And, "practice makes perfect". After picking up that 500lb telephone 300 times, it becomes second nature and no one can turn you off anymore. Rejection? What is that? There's another two cents worth!
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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

Postby Rachael Macgregor on Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:22 am

Perig wrote:
harryfassett wrote:Question: Who is benefiting from Affiliates/Neworkers setting up a merchant account? Is it EN? If so, that's another incentive for them to get you enrolled and it looks like an upsell right off the bat to me if that is the case, because EN is going to make a bundle off of MA monthly fees even though it may be a very small percentage. Answer anybody?


Hey Harry, as far as I know, those merchant accounts are handled by 3rd party, reputable providers not associated with EN.



Most merchant accounts pay commissions to affiliates.

Think about it this way....

If YOU were referring THOUSANDS of people to a merchant service, and you could pick between a service that paid you NOTHING for referrals or a service that pays you 30% every month for every person you refer...which would be the best choice for your BUSINESS?

There's your answer.
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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

Postby Harry Fassett on Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:44 am

I must have "hit" a nerve, because Rachael responded to my question. :D Anyway, my point is if it is in fact true that the main office is making a commission (initial set up, and transaction fees) off of setting up and getting an Affiliate into their own Merchant acct (because I've been offering merchant accts through a third party too for years now, so I know the deal), was it disclosed up front, and do the affiliates get the same chance to make commissions off the service too?

Plus again, if they are making money from the merchant accounts (the main office that is) which it seems they are now that you've come forward Rachael with the answer "YES" it seems, then this is an undisclosed upsell if I'm not mistaken if they didn't mention that this was the case. Anyway, just some thoughts to consider.

P.S. Once last thought now that I think of it. If there is a lot of "charge backs", then the main office is minimizing their liability by spreading it out to all the affiliates by getting them to set up merchant account, i.e. the affiliates get most of the charge backs, and so thus minimizing the risk to EN. Ingenious, but that's what it looks like to me, and I see nothing wrong with it, but heck...again was this explained up front? I'm not sure it was, but that's on them and it's not my business so as long as it's legal, they did good business.


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Perig wrote:
harryfassett wrote:Question: Who is benefiting from Affiliates/Neworkers setting up a merchant account? Is it EN? If so, that's another incentive for them to get you enrolled and it looks like an upsell right off the bat to me if that is the case, because EN is going to make a bundle off of MA monthly fees even though it may be a very small percentage. Answer anybody?


Hey Harry, as far as I know, those merchant accounts are handled by 3rd party, reputable providers not associated with EN.



Most merchant accounts pay commissions to affiliates.

Think about it this way....

If YOU were referring THOUSANDS of people to a merchant service, and you could pick between a service that paid you NOTHING for referrals or a service that pays you 30% every month for every person you refer...which would be the best choice for your BUSINESS?

There's your answer.
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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

Postby Rachael Macgregor on Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:14 pm

Yup Harry, you did hit a nerve and here's why.

It PAINS me to see people blindly taking part in something and ignoring the hard questions. So I had to step in and raise that point to make people THINK.

If you're happy with promoting EN when you know all the facts, then cool, have fun.

If you're not sure about the facts and about where the money and your prospects are going - then investigate further before spending your money. Simple.

Now, I am NOT a part of EN and don't endorse it at all. So I cannot say for sure that they are getting paid for the merchant accounts, but I can't see them choosing to NOT get paid. If you were about to refer thousands of people to a product - you'd get an affiliate link for it right?

The David's are smart guys, with great business minds and they KNOW how to sell and make people go nuts over stuff. I think what they've done here is incredibly clever but it's something I have chosen not to touch.

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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

Postby Juanita Waterman on Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:30 pm

If you call this a shinny object I call it investing in myself. Training I would of Bought anyway. If they make 3 dollars because of the merchant account so what. Why is ok to jump into a MLM that pays you 5% and has no training that is all good. But someone Buys a Training Blogging system to better them self it is a Shinny object. I think this is causing alot of Leaders to become stirred up because how can they compete with 100% commission? That is my question. Will there be glitches with this YEs will things be tough for the pioneers of 100% commission YES. But this is an adventure in MArketing History I would not want to miss out on. If you are already making and your team is making 10,000 a month in residual on 100 people then this is not for you. You have done what we are all striving to do. But The rest of us This is a NEW Frontier 100% commissions. EVERY company has its problems. Just make sure you are being fairly compensated to go through it. There I said it here is my video review in case you missed it

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