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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

Postby Harry Fassett on Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:34 pm

Well said again Adam. I never really shared this, but I never hardly if ever use the words MLM or network marketing when talking to a new prospect online or offline.

I say things like:

1. I'm looking to build business in the area and looking for a few good wholesale distributors to handle it...

2. I'm looking for consultants to build business with and I thought I would share some information with you that may be of interest to you or someone you know...

I use a few more but these couple examples should make it crystal clear. I substitute the words "consultants", and "wholesale distributors" and never go to a place where it could bring up unnecessary objections right off the bat.

I let the email campaigns weed out the leads and get to the real prospects. The ones that "get it" will "get it" and those that don't won't, simple as that.

Using words like MLM, Network Marketing, Amway, or any well known Network Marketing Company puts a newbie person on the defensive most of the time and they are already thinking "scam" or "pyramid scheme before you can even get to the point of exchanging information with them, or if it's online, they just move on before even filling out my landing page form.

Again, stay away from industry buzz words that are a very possible negative to people who are new to the industry or don't know anything about it, because they will just recall something negative most likely because of what you said Adam. I just exchange information, and give them my URL to look over and let them know I will be following up with them and then add them to one of my custom email campaigns).

P.S. One last note: I'm not looking for the same target market everybody here seems to be looking for.
I'm looking for people that are willing to get.snackhealthy snacks into convenient stores, and mini-marts that have a sole owner or it's a Mom and Pop, that have a built in customer base already because wholesale volume is where it is at anyway. It's perfectly legal, and fine, and just good business. I just can't approach chain stores per company policy. It has to be an individual or couple that owns the business, but heck there are literally thousands in Los Angeles where I live, so the possibilities are great.

I have proven ways to do it, and anybody who can put too sentences together can do it. In other words, get the snacks "in the store". E.G. One method doesn't even require the store owner to visit the site, or to even order any product to see if the snacks will sell in their store, it's called consignment. Too simple I know, but mostly overlooked. :0) HF


thedarkroom wrote:
Juanita wrote:Glad to hear that no Leaders feel threatened by 100%.


I wasn't explaining why the leaders are not going to be threatened by Empower Network because I know I'm talking to leaders here. Instead it was about the mindset and our responsibility to the industry and how we can clean up the damage others have done AS WELL as ourselves in past.

We Network Marketers have let down this industry. The very industry which brought with it the best education system, the best people, the biggest hearts and leadership in the world.

And we have discredited it and I too is to blame. And for always, I will strive to redeem myself for the mistakes I made and maybe, even hurt others in past due to my own lack of business owner mindset years ago.

So I add right now to just make it clear on competition so new people do not get a different message to what I'm saying.

Leaders see competition as all good.

It's healthy. It is a blessing. It is sign of abundance and needs to be celebrated. No one has anything to fear from leaders. Leaders will welcome any legitimate growing entreprise and if it has values, vision, character - they will speak good of it even if they have nothing to get from it.

That's character and it's the mindset of a leader.

I'm proud to see someone create something and develop it and help others.

My message was on the mindset, the way the message was delivered and how it has been hyped. And the real message, of self development, the resources available, the mastermind team maybe, the training, the leadership one can tap into that should have proceeded before the waving about commission. It has been sunk due to 100% commission into the shadows.

It is now all over the web and that message will have repercussions to our industry in time to come.

It's like the many articles we have seen, and still see.

They talk about Network Marketing and use the word SCAM! They use other MLM companies, and add Scam. And it damages the industry further.

Not even considering the damage they are adding to the thousands who do the same. They put money first, they put themselves first before the industry.

The damage these headlines has done is magnitude. It's unbelievable what people do to attract traffic and create hype on websites and forums.

But with competition....

When someone for example, like Steve Jobs got the IPAD sorted, developed and created - what happened is much more than a great tool. Much more than sales. Much more than what so many expected to happen.

It also created millions of jobs. It gave programmers the opportunity to create apps for 500 fortune companies and build a business they are proud of. It got them to THINK big. It attracted the sharpest minds.

It gave the underdog who has a sharp mind, the specialised skill to make it happen. Right now, even in India and other countries, are people living in small homes, one bedroom and laptops making their dreams happen with a message - it will take skill, vision and work.

It helped these businesses to also hire other people and outsource. It created a new community of excellence, specialised skills. It created new softwares etc. It got them....to create their own products.

They didn't shout about commission but VISION! Values. In doing so, they attracted those of similar values and their retention is big, and sustainabile.

We've seen it with Mike Dillard. We seen it with other leaders too who created and impacted millions.

To a leader - MLM is but a tiny small hole. This is not a discredit to it.

The tiny hole is the opportunity. The prize, the real one is the association, the training, the leaders who a person can tap into. The stuff we should lead with - education, training in sales and marketing.

MLM is ONLY the beginning. Beyond MLM and within it still, there is a bigger picture. Character. Integrity. Leadership. Accountability and to raise the industry higher than any hype or gimmick for the future of the industry.

And it is consistent no matter what is launched. What challenges come. What new technology appears or what any media or someone says.

When a person figure that out and a growing number start to do so - then the MLM industry will continue to grow to it's presitage status it deserves. A status which is well deserved for no other industry ever came first, to give the opportunity for people to at least have a fighting chance without all the overheads of traditional business has.

People are looking at MLM through a pea size hole. They have seen nothing yet on what's around the corner. And what it will REALLY take. That message is not being promoted enough and strong enough, and consistent enough.

When we look beyond the carrot being dangled - we will see what leaders see.

Richard Bravo and Joyce, gave powerful advice people. Go back and read them. In them are gems that will forever bring sustainability to ANY business a [erson is in or ideas to business to develop.

Someone great said..

"Don't wish for it to get easiar. Get better!"

That is the message I'm leading with.

Those who are there have been in for years., know the real deal.

We know, when a man stands on stage who said it took 2 years; we know what he means.

That it took 8 years to make a decision to move from A - B. And it took 2 years from THEN to reach B stage.
From A to B is the growing period. How long it takes depends on the person to decide to get sales and marketing skills and treat the business as a business.

That is the 100% truth of MLM and to succeed in MLM and...ANY business.

Adam Taha
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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

Postby Jagan Krishnan on Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:24 pm

thedarkroom wrote:
It is now all over the web and that message will have repercussions to our industry in time to come.
It's like the many articles we have seen, and still see.



Unfortunately that is true. Many are promoting this as if its the best thing since sliced bread.

thedarkroom wrote:
They talk about Network Marketing and use the word SCAM! They use other MLM companies, and add Scam. And it damages the industry further.

Not even considering the damage they are adding to the thousands who do the same. They put money first, they put themselves first before the industry.

The damage these headlines has done is magnitude. It's unbelievable what people do to attract traffic and create hype on websites and forums.



A few people have already mentioned about this thing and I am really interested
in knowing your views about this.

Here's what I feel about this strategy:

In my opinion, its not the word COMPANY NAME SCAM that does the damage. Its the
quality of the articles/blog posts which does.

There are people out there who do genuinely want to know whether a particular
company is scam or not?

Yes, yes, its pretty redundant data for experienced network marketers but an average
newcomer will not know about all that.

Let me explain.

Take a look at these titles (haven't checked, I am just giving out random stuff)

Does The Network Marketing Industry Have A Future?
Is Herbalife A Safe Network Marketing Company To Be Associated With?
Why Are Many People Calling Amway To Be A Scam (What Is Really Going On)
Can You Really Use The Internet To Generate Leads
Does Attraction Marketing Work
[Company Name] Review - Learn All About It

For some people, these are redundant stuff but that's not the case for many others.

I am sure many of us would have wanted to know about company reviews, scams, other
opinions and stuff at some point or the other.

I think the problem is not in the title.

The problem is in the content.

We all know what everyone writing for these terms is doing.

BAIT and SWITCH.

I don't think its wrong.

I just think that people don't do it in a respectable way.

I just hate it when someone uses COMPANY NAME REVIEW, and talks just 2 sentences
about the company before advertising whatever they want to advertise.

That's just not cool.

But however there are people who do write good, well thought out company reviews
which helps a ton of people. I don't really think there is anything wrong with ending it
by saying "get into my list to learn how to get more leads, blah, blah, blah".

Definitely a lot of people want to know about companies, compensation plans, reviews,
scams and stuff.

I have searched for these terms and and I know many others do it too.

The keyword data says it all.

As long as people provide good content, I feel there is no harm.

The harm comes in when people

1. attach company name and review and write some lame crap to fill up space and rank it.
2. attach company name and scam and start degrading a particular company to promote theirs.

Yes, that's junking up the web.

Its upto every individual to decide whether to place all these content in their primary blog or
secondary blog or whatever.

Even articles like “Why Network Marketing Is Essential” has an audience.

Show this article to existing network marketers and they will call it boring stuff.

But show this to someone who is looking for starting a home business, and you will get
an avid reader.

Its not the content that matters in this case, it’s the audience.

That holds true for company names, reviews, scams too. As long as its done properly with
all the pros and cons mentioned, I don’t think it’s a problem.

I have read quite a few people talking against company name and scams recently. I am sure
they are referring to the garbage content that is present 90% of the time.

Even I too hate that kind of content but quality content has its place even among reviews,
scams and such.

At least that’s what I think.

Let me know your views about this.

You know it counts for a lot in here.
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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

Postby Adam Taha on Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:38 pm

jagannivasan wrote:
thedarkroom wrote:
Let me know your views about this.

You know it counts for a lot in here.


Thanks for your sharing your thoughts Jagan and I hope, that when I'm debating here, it doesn't come off as me having an attitude or know everything.

I'm just passionate about what I do and the industry, as well as people who step in, and who even if they are beginners, inspire me to learn more.

My thoughts Jagan, is I know the word Scam may hold some value on keywords, and hold some value on many levels.

Yes, many say to use it and give their reasons and one, that it attracts people who in that niche, or looking at MLM, Network Marketing, and the industry.

My thoughts are...

The end, does not always justify the means.

I know, when saying it, it may seem, I am above many things and that I do not make mistakes. I do make mistakes, I do make errors, and I am continually learning, growing and it doesn't stop.

So I'm not perfect. And I've made many errors in past as well.

The word scam holds a negative. It does so in the mind. It holds a weight of perception.

Thought is power. Words are so powerful, I have seen what they have done to teenagers, to adults, to professionals through a period of time.

One glimpse, whether of benefit, creates a perception. A seed has been sown. Then you have thousands more, sowing that same seed.

So even when that which looks good, that can attract leads even if the intention of the person is good, to educate - it stills leaves a negative vibe online. It still does something to the algorithm online. It still becomes an added part of the cesspool. It still battles against the image and stages we call

1. Integrity.
2. Character.
3. Vision.
4. Leadership.

In the end my friend, we must look inside of ourselves, and decide by the values we live by and look long term.

Would that which is immediate, really sustain the generating of sales, sponsoring anyway?

If something works, does it justify it is right to do so?

It's a word, a word becomes a thought, a thought creates a perception, a perception for the ignorant becomes fact. Not that we need to worry what others may think about the industry.

But I feel, the industry is now crying out for us to step up the bar way up high.

I think my friend, that when we increase our knowledge further, our specialised skills further, and we all work together, for the better of this industry, we will not need to even include the word.

But this is just my personal opinion and view.

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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

Postby Jagan Krishnan on Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:05 am

thedarkroom wrote:
Thanks for your sharing your thoughts Jagan and I hope, that when I'm debating here, it doesn't come off as me having an attitude or know everything.

I'm just passionate about what I do and the industry, as well as people who step in, and who even if they are beginners, inspire me to learn more.

My thoughts Jagan, is I know the word Scam may hold some value on keywords, and hold some value on many levels.

Yes, many say to use it and give their reasons and one, that it attracts people who in that niche, or looking at MLM, Network Marketing, and the industry.

My thoughts are...

The end, does not always justify the means.

I know, when saying it, it may seem, I am above many things and that I do not make mistakes. I do make mistakes, I do make errors, and I am continually learning, growing and it doesn't stop.

So I'm not perfect. And I've made many errors in past as well.

The word scam holds a negative. It does so in the mind. It holds a weight of perception.

Thought is power. Words are so powerful, I have seen what they have done to teenagers, to adults, to professionals through a period of time.

One glimpse, whether of benefit, creates a perception. A seed has been sown. Then you have thousands more, sowing that same seed.

So even when that which looks good, that can attract leads even if the intention of the person is good, to educate - it stills leaves a negative vibe online. It still does something to the algorithm online. It still becomes an added part of the cesspool. It still battles against the image and stages we call

1. Integrity.
2. Character.
3. Vision.
4. Leadership.

In the end my friend, we must look inside of ourselves, and decide by the values we live by and look long term.

Would that which is immediate, really sustain the generating of sales, sponsoring anyway?

If something works, does it justify it is right to do so?

It's a word, a word becomes a thought, a thought creates a perception, a perception for the ignorant becomes fact. Not that we need to worry what others may think about the industry.

But I feel, the industry is now crying out for us to step up the bar way up high.

I think my friend, that when we increase our knowledge further, our specialised skills further, and we all work together, for the better of this industry, we will not need to even include the word.

But this is just my personal opinion and view.

Adam Taha


That was clear.
Just need some time to think it over.

Thanks for your detailed response.
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Re: I wonder if Empowered Network will over Take MLSP

Postby Tracey Hausel on Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:38 am

remacgregor wrote:No.
Now, Rachael that is quick and to the point.
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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

Postby Jerry Wisniewski on Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:52 pm

Great concept but the site was going down far to many times for me so I got out.

Also I thought it would be much more productive to just make my own Blog and not have to pay anyone on a monthly basis.
No reason to promote there business when I can promote my own with my own Blog.
That's my story and I am stick-en too it.

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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

Postby Joseph Park on Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:42 pm

I got a lot of inquiries about Empower Network
and they were wondering if this were a scam...

I don't blame you. lol

That's exactly what I thought in the beginning when I watched
the video. But then before I got rid of this from my mind completely,
I had to do some research to make sure this was a scam for sure.

And viola! There they were. I saw a lot of comments saying that
it was a scam.

But then I came across a few people who were saying they were
now making 4 figure monthly income. I talked with one of them
on Skype and he said he was making $2,000/mth only after 6-7 weeks
since he started.

After talking to him for an hour, I was convinced that he WAS making
$2,000/mth and he even showed me all his PayPal transactions.
So I signed up under him and to make the long story short, I referred
5 people on the very next day.

Here's the screenshot of what I made as soon as I started this:

http://www.faststreamofmoney.com/images ... income.gif


Now I'm already making $475/mth though I only started about a week
ago.

Well, I am a busy man with WSOs of mine and taking care of customers
and my offline clients. And I've been marketing online since 2000. BUT
I've never seen anything this easy to make a residual income so quickly.

If you want to talk about this opportunity, just contact me via Skype
josephpark73. I'll be more than happy to tell you how to have INCREDIBLE
success with this program.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

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Re: Empowered Networker What are your Views

Postby Harry Fassett on Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:11 pm

That's great Joseph, however it's always misleading to say just because you are making "X" amount of dollars every month with the business, that someone else is going to duplicate what you've done.

So asking someone how much money they make is really a pretty lazy question in the first place if the person asking the question has done their research on the Company, it's products/services, track record, management team, and pay plan.

Whether it be stocks, investing into any business or investment, the same due diligence and footwork should be done. Same as a Warren Buffet would do. Plus nobody, can guarantee someone else's performance and results in business, and if they say they can, take your wallet and run.

We don't know if Joseph started out in EN with 10 people on his optin lists and 10 people on his friends and social media lists, or thousands or even tens of thousands or how much money Joseph invested initially and on an on-going basis to get up to speed making almost 500 a month and sustain the monthly residual income Joseph is making right? Right, those details are left out, and again we don't know the marketing skill set Joseph has either and how well he can promote a business as opposed to a guy who knows about next to nothing and has no lists of any kind what so ever.

So again, to sit here and tell me how much money you are making with all the little details about how you got started initially being left out, and how much money invested over "X" amount of time to achieve the $475 a month ROI is not even close to telling any smart business person what the real deal is.
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