Personally...
..everybody involved in my training Newsletter are successful because of a system
not because of skills, experience, etc..
Who is successful?..the system?..or what?..
Now, I use a matrix for my system but it is not mlm..however, I would like to know
how in the heck can an mlm company survive with only 3 percent so call success?..
Why don't we call off all that bull crap that the 3 percent succeeded themselves because
of this and that..
The truth of the matter is that all those so call failures, lazy, etc..that comes and go
are the reason why 3 percent are successful..not all but some..
Now, some of those that come and go remain for a while buying products hoping to
find success..
So who is the heart of a successful mlm company?..the 3 percenters or the 97 failures
that come and go?..Take away the 97 percent failure and see how successful the 3
percenters would be..They probably will look for more of the 97 percenters I guess..
Many mlmers took several years and some more before they found success but in the
meantime..were they lazy, or were they supporting the company or should I say the
3 percenters while trying?..
rey
P.S. I'm just curious..enlighten me..
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Reynaldo Perales
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Re: 97% Failure Rate in MLM is Bull*hit
The 3% (if this is at all true) do alot of business, and enroll alot of customers.
The success of an MLM company is in the repeat buying of a product or service.
Thats the nature of residual income.
The success of an MLM company is in the repeat buying of a product or service.
Thats the nature of residual income.
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Melanie Milletics
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Re: 97% Failure Rate in MLM is Bull*hit
melaniemilletics wrote:Cathy,
You've stated failure is not an option - and as long as you stick with that mentality you will be alright.
Another great point you raise is that your success is not dependent on your upline. You are going to get this thing done regardless of what they do, or don't do to support you. That's another indicator that YOU will succeed in this business.
So now, you need to plug into what ever training and system has been made available to you so you can go make that 2K. Work it, don't quit - and ultimately you will earn. Its inevitable.
The "Failure Rate" is often a 'didn't do s#1+" rate. People who didn't invest much in their business, didn't plug into the training and/or system, didn't find out how this wonderful business model really WORKS.
The 98% includes people that really should have been disqualified by their sponsor. The sale of the business opportunity should never have taken place...
Thank you, Melanie, for the encouragement...appreciate it...was just reading telephone role playing (a transcript of a recently successful mlmer being interviewed on a call) on disqualifying the potential. Keeping it kind, but real, in a process of a few short permission calls where 80% are not taken in at the time, with a kind of hook--an invitation to set things straight first, whatever the hindrance may be (lack of time, money, family support) but to allow for contact at a later date and some training to work on.
Seems to me there's always some small, simple barrier that seems hard to get over at the time and that person just needs a nudge here and there...like a life-line when you fall overboard. Once someone does one complete cycle, then no matter how long it took, how painful it was--really, the rinse and repeat is so much easier! (hope so) Call it sea legs. Yes, plugged into good training...working at it.
btw looked at your map, and you're in the middle of the ocean (must be on a yacht)
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Cathy Fletcher
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Re: 97% Failure Rate in MLM is Bull*hit
Al: being a 3%er would be great as you say. What annoys me is the misleading definition of FAILURE, which leads to an inflated 97%, and also the shirking of responsibilities for training & mentoring by so-called uplines. Doesn't that contribute to a bloated 97%?
As far as blame, there's enough of that to go around and cover all the bases: Companies & their comp plans are specious; uplines are negligent; downlines are lazy. When you read "a 97% failure rate in MLM" just who is the writer suggesting is at fault?
As Orson Welles famously said: "They're all guilty. Guilty as hell!"
As far as blame, there's enough of that to go around and cover all the bases: Companies & their comp plans are specious; uplines are negligent; downlines are lazy. When you read "a 97% failure rate in MLM" just who is the writer suggesting is at fault?
As Orson Welles famously said: "They're all guilty. Guilty as hell!"
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Tony Lauria
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Re: 97% Failure Rate in MLM is Bull*hit
Dean, you wrote:
I couldn't agree more. And this is where many companies & upline recruiters are to blame. False promises are exactly what you called them: lures designed to separate people from their money. But did those people fail when so much was stacked against them? They probably never stood a chance. Don't these cases just inflate that 97%?
However, I do know that there is a high drop out rate (whatever the actual figure may bet) amongst people who are lured into the business with promises of great wealth. So there is some fire behind the smoke.
I couldn't agree more. And this is where many companies & upline recruiters are to blame. False promises are exactly what you called them: lures designed to separate people from their money. But did those people fail when so much was stacked against them? They probably never stood a chance. Don't these cases just inflate that 97%?
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Tony Lauria
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Kevin, thanks for your comments.
I certainly agree with the heart of your post but I am not convinced that company management without integrity and comp plans that closely resemble Ponzi schemes are without fault. Sometimes it doesn't matter how hard someone works. When the cards are stacked against you, you simply can't win.
When a comp plan is designed to pay out 10k a month when you have an active downline of 8,000, and another will pay you the same with only 500 under you, can you say the plan played no part in any financial success, with the size of the effort being equal?
I certainly agree with the heart of your post but I am not convinced that company management without integrity and comp plans that closely resemble Ponzi schemes are without fault. Sometimes it doesn't matter how hard someone works. When the cards are stacked against you, you simply can't win.
When a comp plan is designed to pay out 10k a month when you have an active downline of 8,000, and another will pay you the same with only 500 under you, can you say the plan played no part in any financial success, with the size of the effort being equal?
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Tony Lauria
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The 98% includes people that really should have been disqualified by their sponsor. The sale of the business opportunity should never have taken place...
Melanie, you are so right!!!!! There are thousands and thousands who have no business being in this business. And how many med students and law students don't make it? 90something%?
MLM really IS no different than other businesses but you NEVER read the dropout rate in med school, do you?
And if 98% SHOULD'VE been disqualified by their sponsors but weren't, well, that's quite an indictment, isn't it?
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Re: 97% Failure Rate in MLM is Bull*hit
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ok...
Has anyone considered that there is a level of statistics circulated that are "meant" to discourage you?
In fact, they are meant to make you fail and give up. Stay quiet and content like a good little sheep.
It's called propaganda. And whether you want to believe it exists or not is irrelevant.
It affects you none the less. Especially, if you choose to say it doesn't exist.
This is a critical illustration of the importance of what you choose to fill your mind with,
which in turn affects your mindset and ultimately creates your beliefs.
"What the mind of man can conceive and believe, it can achieve." ~Napoleon Hill
Simply said....
If you believe that 97% of all network marketers fail, in your reality, they will.
If you believe this economy will kill your business, in your reality, it will.
If you believe that those statistics do not pertain to you and you are the master
of your own reality and your own success and no else can dictate that for you.....
then in your reality, so shall it be.
~RB
ok...
Has anyone considered that there is a level of statistics circulated that are "meant" to discourage you?
In fact, they are meant to make you fail and give up. Stay quiet and content like a good little sheep.
It's called propaganda. And whether you want to believe it exists or not is irrelevant.
It affects you none the less. Especially, if you choose to say it doesn't exist.
This is a critical illustration of the importance of what you choose to fill your mind with,
which in turn affects your mindset and ultimately creates your beliefs.
"What the mind of man can conceive and believe, it can achieve." ~Napoleon Hill
Simply said....
If you believe that 97% of all network marketers fail, in your reality, they will.
If you believe this economy will kill your business, in your reality, it will.
If you believe that those statistics do not pertain to you and you are the master
of your own reality and your own success and no else can dictate that for you.....
then in your reality, so shall it be.

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Richard Bravo
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Re: 97% Failure Rate in MLM is Bull*hit
GaleGeorge wrote:"Success is simply a matter of luck. Ask any failure." Earl Nightingale
Thats correct but you also have to be good to be lucky..
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Mark Tubera
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Re: 97% Failure Rate in MLM is Bull*hit
Hi All,
The 97% figure I've always heard, is 97% of start up MLM's fail within their first 2 years.
Whether everyone who gets caught up in these crashes quits for good (and therefore are taken out of the game) is another matter.
I know that I've been in countless MLM crashes, but believe in failing forward, never giving up and never losing the dream!!
Regards,
John
The 97% figure I've always heard, is 97% of start up MLM's fail within their first 2 years.
Whether everyone who gets caught up in these crashes quits for good (and therefore are taken out of the game) is another matter.
I know that I've been in countless MLM crashes, but believe in failing forward, never giving up and never losing the dream!!
Regards,
John
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