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[Jim Ticehurst Contribution Level: 4]

I know that some people are going to say that I sound prudish but I just recieved an email asking me if I wanted to listen in to a Guru making telephone calls to people that have requested more information about an mlm offer tonight (I expect that many of you have recieved it as well).

So my question is this:
As the phone calls are done 'live' is it being fair to the person that is the reciever of the call who is totally unaware that there maybe hundreds of other people listening in as well? It just does not seem right to me.

I would agree to maybe recorded telephone calls being played, providing that they were played with both parties approval. I was under the obviously false impression that privacy was a legal right? I guess that I was wrong.

What do you think? Would you make calls of this nature? or would you be offended if you discovered that your 'private' telephone converations were public property?
Regards Jim T.

[Andrea Thornton Company: Global Domains International, Inc Contribution Level: 2]

I'm with you on this one.

I think that if one party knows the call is being recorded or shared it is technically legal.

Radio stations broadcast practical jokes on people the same way. (I don't like those either.)

First. If I were invited to this type of event, my response would be....

"No thanks, you have just told me you are not upfront with the people you deal with."

Second. Refer to First.

Andrea

[Rick Lelchuk Contribution Level: 3]

It is illegal in Florida to record a call and not let the receiver know. That's why you are always told that this call may be recorded for training purposes. Covers a company legally.

I used to belong to a group that did this kind of call regularly. Very educational, but I wouldn't want to be the one receiving the call not knowing others were lurking in the back ground. Glad I'm no longer there.

Your going to have to vote on this one Jim with your conscience and your feet.

[Max Smith Contribution Level: 1]

Legal or not - it's not right! Simple - it's not fair! In some way, they make fools of those people! Such an act can be considered as an insult !

[Donnie Norton Company: MPB Today Contribution Level: 3]

Good post Jim, I know for a fact that this is being done on a weekly basis, right out in the open by Michael Dlouhy of Mentoring For Free fame. When I was in it I was told to send my leads to Michael and he would call them with me while the couple of hundred people on the call listened in. The lead was never informed that there were other people on the call or that it was being recorded. It always felt slimey to me and that is one of the reasons I am no longer with them. Just my 2 cents worth.

[Robert Banach Company: Global Information Network Contribution Level: 3]

Wow, can you imagine what the person might think when they find out after the fact that they were recorded and listened to by others! I would not want to be on that phone call! Or, the one w/ the attorney!

[Jim Ticehurst Contribution Level: 4]

One of the ironies with this post is that a lot of the people in question are actually already on this site and that they love to promote themselces as 'Gurus' ....what a stupid name, I always think of people in the desert wearing sackcloth and preaching to people around the campfire at night... with the stars shining down upon them as they shoot across the heavens in answer to their dreams and wishs.....now back to reality....

When I lived in London I trained as a Samaraitan and we were taught how to speak to people who phoned up in distress (mostly people involved in mlm I shouldn't wonder) but the training was simple and carried out like this:

The pupils would sit in the classroom with the Trainer and then one of the pupils would go into the next room to them and the tutor would ring him (or her) up and act as a distressed caller (of course every person in the room could hear the conversation) sometimes the call might go on for 30 minutes or longer and then when it was finished the student would return to the classroom and the telephone call would be discussed, both the good and the bad points.

But everybody walked away with dignity. Nobody was suckered into being an unpaid dummy who spoke in what they naturally assumed was a private conversation. So to all those on this site who choose to take that path I say simply this:

There are better ways, let us all live with honor and with dignity, is money really that important?,
regards Jim T.

[Arthur Bernier Jr. Contribution Level: 3]

In my personal opinion there is nothing wrong with it and you can very simply say, I also have my business partner on the line.

I don't know but maybe it's just me I am not telling any stranger on the phone anything I don't want anyone else to hear. It could be my real estate background that makes me not see a problem with that since that is exactly how we did training.

As long as you DON'T RECORD the call or try to sell it for some type of monetary gain I don't see a moral issue with it.

You have got to do it in this industry or make a bunch of calls on your own until you figure it out.

That's my opinion it's not like its taking peoples credit card information with 100 people on the line its qualifying them and booking an appointment...

But I have never done it before for my network marketing company and if you have a competent upline and some of your own leads you can easily just call some people with your upline on the phone and

"Hey Bob A.J. here and i have my business partner on the line Mike Dillard, and you responded to one of my ads about how to make extra income from home is that something you are still interested in."

I think one on one training is much more effective and a mass phone dialing will lead to alot more questions and I've also noticed the trainees are more comfortable asking questions after the dials when it is a one on one.

There needs to be some high touch at times and not just high tech. Its great to never talk to your downline but not effective. I'm not saying train people 10 levels deep but there needs to be some type of group leader system set up.
Be Blessed and Have Success

[Robert Banach Company: Global Information Network Contribution Level: 3]

Arthur -
Couldn't agree with you more, if you tell the person that someone else is on the line and that it is being recorded (if it actually is) and they are still willing to talk with you, no problem.
The way the original post was presented was that these two items were not mentioned, thus the responses posted were with this impression in mind.
Bob

[Jim Ticehurst Contribution Level: 4]

Arthur said:

Couldn't agree with you more, if you tell the person that someone else is on the line and that it is being recorded (if it actually is) and they are still willing to talk with you, no problem.

Artur said:
"Someone else is on the line" that implies one person,?

Arthur I could not agree with you more, of course these types of calls are not always recorded and as regards asking someone upfront if they objected to maybe two hundred people listening in I don't think would be to well recieved do you? anyway I have never known this to happen, have you?....
regards Jim T.