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[Cheryl James Company: Talk Fusion Global Contribution Level: 3]

*** When I posted this, I did not realize that there were 5 more pages to read. Haha!! Thank you Diane Stephenson, I think you provided me with my answer on page 4

Okay guys, help me out with this...

I do not condone lying and think I have been mostly transparent. But I am new to this industry and am just trying to find a way. Everyone teaches that you should "position yourself as an expert". Richard said in a previous post that it is all about "You,Inc."

So what does someone like myself do? I have been with my company for about six weeks and do not have any reps yet. I have written a couple of things, I have a blog, and have even attempted a couple of videos. But now what? I am stuck! I know that I need to keep it up and I refuse t give up, but what do I say or do... "Hi, I am friendly and intelligent, let me help you help me figure this thing out."...??

[Priscilla Washington Contribution Level: 1]

Hi Cheryl, I'm new to this as well. I've been in network marketing for a few months now. And right now, I'm just learning all that I can about this industry. For me, the only way I can be confident in saying i'm an expert in anything is by me studying and doing it. Right now I am reading books, reading articles, listening to webinars, training videos, taken up some training courses to further my knowledge and experience. So far I like the concepts that are presented in magnetic sponoring. http://ambitioness.magneticsponsoring.com

It makes alot of sense and in this industry the only way to succeed is to surround yourself with leaders who have been there and done that, and who is actually making the income you want in your life as well, or to learn for yourself what system works for you. One thing I do know is that any networkers main job is marketing...thats all you do... market your behind off! LOL!

[Stephen Orchard Contribution Level: 1]

Tony
Everything you mentioned is true. It is the world we live in. I live in Montreal and a financial planner here for over 30 years, took a bunch of people (not millionaires like the Madoff case,) for everything they had in a ponzi scheme. His wife's credit card bill was 70K /mth last year alone. He looks like the guy next door and from what people calling in to the talk shows are saying, they called him 'uncle'______. That's how close and trusting of him they were! (He is behind bars awaiting trial.)

You need to read the book: 'Snakes in Suits'. They talk about the psycopathic personality in the workplace. It's rampant. Someone once said: Never trust someone wearing a tie. (I think that is becoming signal to 'watch out'!)

We do things differently with my company. We don't use landing pages or sign any contracts with clients until we've looked them in the eyes and they've looked in ours. We allow you to browse URL's that provide info on our programs and then you decide. In the end, you decide (the client) if we know our onions or not and then we proceed. It's the only way.

You can usually tell something is wrong if you are rushed or get that sense. Any truthful, legitimate program (and person) will never pressure you. One of the benefits of MLM by the way!

You may get less business thrown your way or take longer to build it but a least you can sleep at night!

Keep it burnin'
SteveO

[Demetrios Tzortzis Contribution Level: 1]

Great post! I definitely see where you are coming from, especially since the internet leaves so much room for deception. Attraction marketing is built around the individual creating a brand for themselves. This means that the person has to understand their vision and their purpose in life and their values. This is what typically lets other people become attracted to them. Many times what people tend to do is pretend to be aligned with the values of others and that is the deception that ultimately will get them in trouble.

[Tony Lauria Contribution Level: 3]

Hi Steve,

Thanks for your comment.

Just hope you're not inferring that MLM companies are somehow less treacherous than conventional ones. Since the corporate world discovered the MLM model it has gone nowhere but downhill with these corporate suits who know nothing about building a downline firsthand.

Worse, they impose a model that only works - used to work, now - in companies that are SALES oriented. MLM is a relationship business, not a sales business. That's why the question of faking it, lying and posturing is so crucial. Because such things DEFINE the relationship.

[Tony Lauria Contribution Level: 3]

Demetrios,

You've said a mouthful. We most certainly must examine WHO we align ourselves with. And the WHO means company as well as upline. If we are in a relationship business we have to ask, just who are we relating to?

[Jackie Hall Company: Team Beachbody Contribution Level: 2]

Wow! What a topic!
As a very new person that never heard of attraction marketing until just a few months ago, I'll share my input on this subject...
I think that attraction marketing isn't about being a liar or a better liar than someone else. I have noticed in the short time I've delved into internet marketing that it is deceptive and there is a lot of BS out there.
I use a traffic exchange site to help promote my site and I see a lot of crap on there...
Like...Make a million dollars in an hour! Sit back do nothing and be rolling in cash! Be lazy and get rich! Join now, your downline is set up for you already! It goes on & on...
In today's economy, people buy into this crap as an easy way out. An easy way to do do nothing and make money.
This is deceptive advertising not Attraction Marketing. Ads that say you can make loads of money and have the riches you want and the mansion and the beautiful people around you. There may be one or two people in the company that have reached these riches and the ads sell the possibililty that anyone can do it. That it COULD be you!
Attraction Marketing isn't about deceptive advertising it's about being able to bring value to others & help others. It's about positiong yourself as a leader (even if your not a leader). Becoming a leader by learning and becoming educated in your field. This isn't lying (to me). You may not be a leader and earn a lot of money yet, but if you are learning & educating yourself, you are becoming a future leader. I am in this position right now. I'm not a leader, but I'm working towards that goal. I'm learning & educating myself and this education will (and has) helped other people. So, does that make me a liar? No, I don't believe so. Because the little that I have learned helped someone else. That's my two cents

[Tony Lauria Contribution Level: 3]

Great post Jackie. Thanks.

And you are a leader. Right now. Know how I know?

You spoke up with conviction and honestly assessed your situation. You also have what my father used to call great BS protectors!!!

You can be a newbie and be a leader too. Why not? Who said the leaders are all at the top? An army has lieutenants and captains who lead too; they aren't all generals. And leaders aren't all measured by how much money they have or claim to have either.

As far as deceptive advertising: it could be used as an attraction as you described. There are desperate people who are attracted to BS, to the false posturing and the attitude, who want to believe they can do next to nothing and live the 'lifestyle'.

The only solution is to know what you're doing before you commit time and money. The only solution is education and training.

[Roy Clinkscales Contribution Level: 2]

Wow! There has been some heavy stuff posted over here... soul searching stuff! Just a few minutes ago I logged back into the community for the first time today. I've been reading this to catch up.

By the way, I didn't get a chance to say this the last time I replied to you.. You're funny!

Anyways, I'm going to go ahead and ask you: What company are you with? Whatever you're involved with, it seems like you have a lot of posture about it. So, I'm going to go ahead and ask... I'm curious.

Thanks for the name recognition earlier. I appreciate it. I'm going to head over and see what's going on in the other forums right now.

(Man, you ask some good questions. And I REALLY appreciate what you said about "business" being a part of living! Thus there is really no separation of business and character - the way you do business is the way you are. It's good to be reminded of that. Also, what Richard Bravo said about the Nazis having posture... Priceless. I'm glad he went there).

[Richard Bravo Company: Life Force International Contribution Level: 9]

I know this may be a little cheesy but at the risk of looking like a dope
I would like to say thank you to everyone.

Tony and Roy - you guys are too cool for school man! This has been a great conversation.
Joyce - you seriously made me blush. Thank you very much.
I'm just here like everyone else trying to add value to the community
and I am deply honored that some of it is helpful. I am extremely humbled
by everyone's kind words.

.... thank you

Roy, Tony - again, my hat is off to you gentlemen - great thread.

Love to everyone.
~RB