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[Justin jr Contribution Level: 2]

Many have already seen me kick my own article that I posted here off the top position of google with my own website in 2 minutes flat. Even got screenshot and a witness It's called marketing, something you know very little about.

Proof?

The way you put it- it seems as if you are using BN to give your own article juice to get to the top. Any smart marketer would do that. Did you link to BN with your article to help you get to the top?

So this memerbship is only 10$ a month?

I guess we now know which marketers are not making at least 10$ a month off this site... Or maybe these marketers do make more than 10$ a month from this site, but refuse to contribute to this site? LEECHERS

[Justin jr Contribution Level: 2]

PS. Thank you for the reprieve on the negative advertising.

Negative adverting is usually associated with "attack ads", but I won't get into the common semantics and definitions of the buzz words in the industry

Anyways- i dont see any "negative" or "bad" advertising going on here? Why people always focusing on the negative?

I see noone mentioned that Mike has already CHANGED the "negative ad" due to the feedback he got. That is part of marketing.. this is good , not bad...

The ad itself is NOT NEGATIVE. It is only the PERCEPTION of people veiwing the ad which can "make it" negative or positive. This is marketing where Testing is king. And feedback matters. And Mike is doing both..

Mike is listening, yet most are still complaining..

I know people love to complain on forums, but this forum is full of it...

The way I see it is simple... If someone doesn't think that their content is worth $10/Mo to post on the most visited, and targeted audience in the industry, then it's probably not worth reading.

Mike- thats way to blunt man.. these people are sensitive you may hurt there feelings

[Billy Alley Contribution Level: 2]

This has been done for the safety of people that are serious about reaching their goals.

It creates a win/win for both the leader and the serious entrepreneur because a leader with the seal is likely adding helpful, informative information. The serious entrepreneur is likely to get ahead quicker and more efficiently by gaining knowledge from this leader.

Face it, there's a sea of amateurs using outdated techniques still, like flashing their product/opportunity, and there's also now a TON of people out there now claiming to be professionals.

This is why I believe Better Networker has it this way. They are serious about setting aside the leaders that provide value from the people that don't.

I believe once you get to the other side, this will become more clear to you. I'm not there yet, and not afraid to admit it, but I'm not going to cross my arms, stick out my bottom lip, and pout about it .

I'm just going to be patient, and work on each step to my success, until I get to the top.

It's just another goal to reach.

[Mike Dillard Company: Magnetic Sponsoring Contribution Level: 5]

As for value, perhaps you are running into the problem of trying to be all things to all men.

There is no doubt that a free site has greater value to the wider community, but if you are looking to give value to the more experienced then obviously charging more will allow you to generate the kind of content and opportunities that will give them real value.

I'll be interested to see what direction your marketing advisors suggest. And I must say it has been interesting having you consult more with the members about the direction ahead.

PS. Thank you for the reprieve on the negative advertising.

Yes, it has been an interesting challenge... Squeezing quality out of quantity. Requiring that you must be a paid member to post content, and then rewarding good content with added exposure to the community, and through real rewards from the point system is the plan.

I'd still like to keep the forum open to free users at this point, because I think it's a critical involvement tool for newbies. Reducing forum spam is simply a matter of adding more moderators which is in the works. (Actually a programming bug more than anything at this point). But we'll see how it goes. Once the site is 5X what it is today, the forum will probably turn "members only".

By the end of the year, the goal is to provide members with customized experiences based on their topics of interest. If you're primarily consuming content on PPC, then we'll provide you with the best PPC content on the site, along with the best PPC training products available. If you're looking up information about Company XYZ, we'll be able to serve up an entire suite of information on XYZ, provided by staff and community members.

Mike

[Mike Dillard Company: Magnetic Sponsoring Contribution Level: 5]

Any your perfectly correct James. This site isn't made for you, or full-time marketers. You don't need a site like this. It is made for the MILLIONS of newbies out there who need help, answers, and solutions.

Mike

[Pavol Almasi Contribution Level: 2]

If the site turns Members only, would that mean that both writing and reading posts and articles will be for members only?

[Pavol Almasi Contribution Level: 2]

So I posted the article on my blog and in 2 minutes (yes I have screenshots) it kicked BN off google and noplace to be found and my listing was back on top.

So what was BN replaced with (what was on the second, third etc position?) Because if BN got completely kicked off and was replaced with links that were not there before or used to be behind it, then it may be, that there was something going on with indexing BN, rather than indexing your article.

[Mike Dillard Company: Magnetic Sponsoring Contribution Level: 5]

You'll need to be a member to upload your own content, and read premium content in the vault. Reading everything else is free.

Mike

[Pavol Almasi Contribution Level: 2]

That's cool. Mus admit it's a new thing to me. I was under the impression that by positioning yourself above other links Google will simply move the other links down. For example, let's say the order of the pages was 1.BN. 2.You 3.MrX 4.MrY etc. Now you do some tweaking and move yourself to the top. So now, assuming everything else stayed the same, the order should be 1. You. 2. BN 3.MrX 4 MrY. However, you got a completely different search results, and not only that you positioned yourself to the top, you also knocked BN, that used to be on the top way behind all Mr X, Y and now even Z etc even though they did not do a thing. How does that work? What does Google take into account?

[Richard Bravo Company: Life Force International Contribution Level: 9]

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Yeah Dean ... its about SEO man, not badges - duh!

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