Forums

[Luke Shavak Company: Avant Contribution Level: 2]

Hey guys (and preferably Contempo)..

I was going to start building my first link wheel when a friend told me that they don't work very well anymore.. She said that you can still do it but don't make the outer ring completely connect up and leave gaps in it - so to speak - so that it's not so obvious.

Firstly is this true?

And if this is true now, what backlinking strategies are people doing? Does anyone know any good diagrams out there??

My original plan was to create a link wheel, and then submit every single site in the wheel through TribePro (automatically syndicates out to social bookmarking/networking sites)..

Help!

[Richard Bravo Company: Life Force International Contribution Level: 9]

.

Depends on who you ask and which model you are using.

The classic model of a "link wheel" is largely ineffective.
Reason being is footprint.

Like breadcrumbs on a trail, the footprint left by the traditional link wheel model has been identified and can raise flags for search engines, thus affecting your results. This is true in just about any blatant manipulation of search results etc. If the model is too loose, it will most certainly leave a footprint.

There are models that work that require a little more effort and planning, but are effective.
For example...

A "link wheel" type of structure with more organic linking applied to a buffer, such as a web2.0 property like HupPages, Scribd, Blogger, Posterous, etc. Then using that buffer to link to your target zone, is more effective today with less direct risk to the target zone.

Does that make sense?

~RB
.
.

[Betsy Vayda Company: Seacret Direct Contribution Level: 3]

yes, the key to back linking is to make it look natural. Google is smart and is not fooled for long.

[Nathan Isaac Company: SendOutCards Contribution Level: 3]

My biggest success has been Profile backlinks (winsons backlinks)

Article backlinks as well.

Social bookmarking to get my page indexed.

And tonnes of Tweets, Diggs, Google +1's, this adds social proof. Whenever I need a page to bump up a few spots, I'll load up on these.

[Luke Shavak Company: Avant Contribution Level: 2]

.
There are models that work that require a little more effort and planning, but are effective.
For example...

A "link wheel" type of structure with more organic linking applied to a buffer, such as a web2.0 property like HupPages, Scribd, Blogger, Posterous, etc. Then using that buffer to link to your target zone, is more effective today with less direct risk to the target zone.

Does that make sense?

~RB
.
.

Sorry Richard.. in english please..

[Luke Shavak Company: Avant Contribution Level: 2]

My biggest success has been Profile backlinks (winsons backlinks)

Article backlinks as well.

Social bookmarking to get my page indexed.

And tonnes of Tweets, Diggs, Google +1's, this adds social proof. Whenever I need a page to bump up a few spots, I'll load up on these.

Hey Nathan. I checked out Winson's blog and couldn't see anything about his backlinks.. Which program of his do you use?

[Nathan Isaac Company: SendOutCards Contribution Level: 3]

here you go


http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-spe ... klink.html

[Luke Shavak Company: Avant Contribution Level: 2]

.
A "link wheel" type of structure with more organic linking applied to a buffer, such as a web2.0 property like HupPages, Scribd, Blogger, Posterous, etc. Then using that buffer to link to your target zone, is more effective today with less direct risk to the target zone.

Does that make sense?
~RB .

Sorry Richard I'm trying to get my head around this.. Would you mind explaining a little further please??

[michael sparkes Contribution Level: 2]

.

Depends on who you ask and which model you are using.

The classic model of a "link wheel" is largely ineffective.
Reason being is footprint.

Like breadcrumbs on a trail, the footprint left by the traditional link wheel model has been identified and can raise flags for search engines, thus affecting your results. This is true in just about any blatant manipulation of search results etc. If the model is too loose, it will most certainly leave a footprint.

There are models that work that require a little more effort and planning, but are effective.
For example...

A "link wheel" type of structure with more organic linking applied to a buffer, such as a web2.0 property like HupPages, Scribd, Blogger, Posterous, etc. Then using that buffer to link to your target zone, is more effective today with less direct risk to the target zone.

Does that make sense?

~RB
.
.

Agree with Rich,

These patterns are easily spotted by Google now and it wouldn't take long before they caught onto the strategy. Like rich says, applying to a buffer is still practiced, its much like syndicating your content ........ in a round about way. A lot less risk attached.

[TBone B Contribution Level: 1]

No link wheels are far from dead ! I had 15 site on 1 St Page Of Google and just got smoked on the last update a couple of weeks ago. My sites that I direct backlinked without a wheel where hit the hardest the ones with were okay.
I hate Google and you know what I have been focusing on Media buys instead of SEO and I get instant traffic and a lot more and after I start to optimize it converts better.
SEO is dieing mark my words .Two year's from now all you will see is big business on the fist page with Google AdWords covering almost the whole page.