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[Harkon Ajala Contribution Level: 2]

Cesar Fasano just asked a real interesting question over on the MLM VooDoo Society Forum.

He asked "Which Marketing Method Is Giving You The Best Results In Your Quest To Find Real Entrepreneurs?"

I thought, "Wow, that really is a great question to ask the real leaders out there actually building a business in this industry every day."

So what's working best for you guys? If you're a leader with actual experience, come share your knowledge and further brand yourself by giving real value in the forum post over at http://mlmvoodoosociety.ning.com/forum/ ... opic%3A206

I'm really looking forward to hearing some well thought out, innovative answers!

As Always... Live Luxe Or Die!

- Harkon Ajala

[Jay Olivo Contribution Level: 2]

The only marketing methood that works to build a network marketing company is
calling network marketers, preferably ones in your warm market, and asking being
up front, ask them if they are open to looking at an opportunity and if they are
you send them info or to a web site. If not then you ask them if they are utilizing a
funded proposal in their marketing (most won't be) then offer them one.

That is the only way to build a network marketing company fast.

You need growth income, residual income comes later, growth income is the
fundemental reason to build a network marketing company.

I hope this helps or at least this is my opinion.

[Lawyer Marketer Contribution Level: 2]

Jay,
You're joking right?
Please tell me you're joking!
Oh, no! You're not joking!

Calling your warm, cold, or hot markets is dead. Sure, if you bug the hell out of all of your friends, you might get a few to come over to your biz, but it is offset by the number of people who cease being your friends.

Calling your warm market is a "better" idea than cold calling or bugging friends and family, but it is still quickly becoming a dead business model. What happened to crafting a well-written email with a compelling subject line and EMAILING it to your warm market? You do have your "warm" market's email addresses, right? Send your pitch to your list... you will get the response if they are truly "warm" to you.

Look at Mike Dillard. I can't fathom the dough he made by sending one series of emails to his massive list for the latest traffic formula 2. (I think you can still get that at the discount!) I the figure somewhere, but I think I blocked it out of my memory because it was so huge. The point is, you only have so much time in the day, and unless you are a master on the phone, and have 50 hours a day to be on the phone, this is a dead end.

I think a better approach is to educate yourself and reach a certain level of success where you can provide value to others, then you can set yourself out as some sort of expert - build your warm market as an email list through any of the dozens of methods discussed here - offer the people on your email list that compelling offer and tweak this process and continue doing what works.

As far as finding "real entrepreneurs", you need to tweek your message - ads, subject lines, keywords, and CONTENT to reach that niche. Focusing all of your marketing efforts on reaching that specific audience is important. This is how I have found entrepreneurs wanting to join me.

Then, I dont have to CALL anyone, warm, cold or otherwise. They call me.

[Adam Taha Contribution Level: 8]

The person will know what's working by being a student of marketing and that my friend is done by the following..

1. See different methods.
2. Apply, test, track, tweak, result.
3. Evaluate, test again, track result.

That's how they going to know what works for them. I don't take on what experts say. I apply, test, track, evaluate, see result, test again, track etc until I know for sure...what works for me. That way I become a student of the business.

And when I speak it be of integrity. So test, track everything.

And what works for me, may not work for him or her because there are a lot of variables in between. But sending people to a site and all that, and calling them?

But I would apply the following cause this has worked for all I know, and have helped.

1. Know who your niche market is and their needs.
2. Apply prospecting tool e.g. capture page, or a blog with an optin form.
3. Give free liquidating offer that is valuable to the prospects needs.
4. Have a process now to call, email, but preferrably call and lead your prospect to their desired need.

to find out

a. You this person.
b. You that person.
c. Or you don't give a damn

No BS, just home it in and not waste time. That is if suddenly most believe to make EVERYONE friends and not...make money

Jeesh, I have to say, that one I get so bored off. "we want to make friends with you to help you, and.."

Ok pal. Listen, I'm in the money. Raise the value and pull like a powerhouse magnet and none of that talk of "help you, love you, dance with you, save your life and.."

Stay away from these things.

If one wants to tighten up then do so with

A) The copy
B) The message in the video
C) CD that they pay shipping for, or something else physical
D) Have also upsell there with one more offer. e.g. you got Free CD, You got course, your got something else and all relevant to the needs of the niche.

So add value

Let them choose and not make upsell like a jungle but all on same page.

Most of all - test, track, see the result, evaluate the result, see where one can refine, raise converses, tighten qualifying processes etc.

PS...let the person who is asking come here

Cheers

Adam

[Richard Bravo Company: Life Force International Contribution Level: 9]

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Jay.... Dude! Are you actually serious?
Your million dollar marketing strategy is "Ambulance Chasing?"
You've claimed in your rants in the forum to have the secrets to doing all of this correctly and that you are "the sheriff" in town that will blow the lid off all the scammers out there AND THAT'S YOUR ADVICE ?!

Sorry bud, but I'd rather take my chances on one of those so called "Scam Gurus."
At least their advice doesn't require smoking crack before implementation!
I'd pay $1000 a month just to AVOID the punishment you're going to put your downline through teaching junk like that!

Straight up Jay. I am going to be 100% BLUNT......
That IS the worse advice I've ever heard for network marketing.... EVER!

If that kind of thing worked you can bet your butt that you'd see it in action all day long, here on this website. THINK ABOUT IT!.... You are surrounded by network marketers right now, right here, and according to your grand scheme WE ARE your target market.

So I Have One Simple Question:
How many people have joined your mlm from this community using that approach Jay?

All you new comers to the industry that may stumble on to this conversation:
DO NOT LISTEN TO THAT ADVICE AND DO NOT TRY IT AT HOME!
You Will Crash And Burn!

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[Adam Taha Contribution Level: 8]

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Straight up Jay. I am going to be 100% BLUNT......
That IS the worse advice I've ever heard for network marketing.... EVER!

If that kind of thing worked you can bet your butt that you'd see it in action all day long, here on this website. THINK ABOUT IT!.... You are surrounded by network marketers right now, right here, and according to your grand scheme WE ARE your target market.

So I Have One Simple Question:
How many people have joined your mlm from this community using that approach Jay?

All you new comers to the industry that may stumble on to this conversation:
DO NOT LISTEN TO THAT ADVICE AND DO NOT TRY IT AT HOME!
You Will Crash And Burn!

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It's like a bucket full of holes.

Looks like John Wayne Spaghetti Junction Needs a new Sheriff in town. Vacancy everyone

Tighten the question.."How many you got in there and stayed and build a lucrative Network Marketing business?"


Be my guest Jay. We love to hear from the..(cough) sheriff

Adam

[Kevin DaSilva Contribution Level: 3]

Honestly I believe that with the Internet we have so many opportunities to make money for MULTIPLE "Revenue Avenue's"...

There is way to many people out there with videos on YouTube talking about...

"Hey My Name is "Mr. Know It All" and I am with Team Elite and Blah Blah Blah"...

Honestly, why not target a REAL MARKET that would be interetsed in your MLM Product. And then instead of ONLY promoting your MLM YOU GIVE THEM WHAT THEY ARE ALREADY SEARCHING FOR using CPA, Affiliate Marketing and so on...

I COMPLETELY DISAGREE with people who say "If you wanna do Affiliate Marketing then just be an Internet Marketer"... That could NOT BE STUPIDER... IMO

99 out of 100 people are going to bounce right off your site as soon as they start hearing about "JOIN MY TEAM".

So why not GIVE EM WHAT THEY WANT?

ex. You are with GRN and sell travel packages to 5 star resorts around the world (many with golf courses)

Why not make an "Auto-Pilot" blog about golf that has Affiliate Offers, CPA Offers and a Banner that says...

"How Would You Like To Travel To The Most Beautiful & Exotic Golf Courses In The World & Get Paid $1000's To DO It"

1. The PPL (Pay Per Lead Offers) where you offer a Free 6 Month Subscription to a Magazine (that you find in CJ.com or Clickbooth.com,etc) THAT PAYS YOU $1-3 A LEAD for giving stuff away for free...
Will MAKE YOU MONEY OFF THE "TIRE KICKERS" coming to your site.

2. You can do "Product Reviews" on Golf Clubs, Golf Shoes, etc and HAVE AMAZON, EBAY AND OTHER AFFILAITE LINKS that make you money from things YOU KNOW THEY ALREADY WANT!

3. Your banner leads them to a page that explains how they can travel to 5 star golf resorts for $300 8 days/7 nights and how if they sign up their GOLF BUDDIES (which you know they have because they travel in packs) YOU KNOW THEY WILL BE HOOKED. Not to mention they have an excuse to tell their wives about why he needs to play golf and she won't care cuz she's getting a Massage meanwhile...

4. How much competition do you think you are going to have in the Golf Market? NONE!

NOTE:: I am NOT affiliated with GRN in anyway. But any product you sell you can find a market that is already interested in what you have...

All this talk about "Attraction MArketing" as if its some Magic Trick blows my mind.

All you have to do is OFFER THEM WHAT YOU KNOW THEY WANT!

1. Find a Market
2. Find out what their problem/fear/obstacles are...
3. Figure out your demographics (WHO IS YOUR PROSPECT? REALLY FIGURE OUT WHO THEY ARE...

ie. After doing research we know... The golfer is most likely a middle-aged male looking for excuses to tell his wive why he needs to go play golf)

4. Give them solutions to their problems/pleasures and then as 1 of your many "Revenue Avenues" you throw in your "MLM" which you can explain in a way you knwo will hit home...

This is an example I use in my trainings called "Revenue Avenue's" and I believe that plugging in to MULTIPLE STREAM OF INCOME IS THE WAY WE TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF "INTERNET NETWORK MARKETING" for 2009-10.

But hey to each his own... Right?

Whatever works DO IT UP!

Basically, as long as you take action everyday then you will have success.

But it has to be REAL ACTION not looking at new products coming out soon.

Thats my humble 2 cents...

Kindest Regards,
Kevin DaSilva

[Richard Bravo Company: Life Force International Contribution Level: 9]

Why not make an "Auto-Pilot" blog about golf that has Affiliate Offers, CPA Offers and a Banner that says...

Great stuff Kevin... you've got an info product in the making hiding in there.

[Kevin DaSilva Contribution Level: 3]

Thanks Richard... Actually I am launching a Membership Site soon that mixes IM with MLM.

Honestly, I can't believe the HUGE disconnect between the 2.

IM Guru's are always bashing MLM which is idiotic because MLM is MUCH EASIER then creating Info Products (as a newbie anyway) because the business is setup up all you need to do is promote it.

MLM Guru's (most anyway NOT ALL) are talking about "Mindsets, Being Centered & Positive Thinking" which yes is essential But NOT the end all be all... you know? And the ones that talk IM are trying to get everyone and their mother to promote the SAME DAMN LANDING PAGE!

I don't mean to come off rude or anything but I have a lot of built up frustration from when I got started a couple of years ago.

Paid $2k to join an opp, $200/m to keep account, was promised to be taught EVERYTHING ABOUT IM and then the training was GO SUBMIT ARTICLES... lol

Thats why I don't care about leaving some of my best ideas on here for everyone to see because I sincerely would love to help as many people avoid the pain and stress I endured when getting started. There are way too many opportunities to make money online to be closed minded.

Thats my thoughts anyway.

But again thanks alot Richard.

Kindest Regards,
Kevin DaSilva

[Jay Olivo Contribution Level: 2]

Ok Here it goes my reply to all the haters,

First to you Sean, Read the post again.
I said call NETWORK MARKETERS, preferably ones that are in your warm market.
I never said write an email or call or bug your family or friends.
I'm done with you.

Next Richard,

Yes I am 100% serious, and my strategy is not "Ambulance Chasing". It is brilliant.
Please don't confuse my ranting about me being sick of the Bull C*** with the right
way to build a network marketing company.

You know nothing about me, my integrity, or my capability to recruit people into
a network marketing company. You imply that my method requires smoking crack
and your character is in question when you attack someone giving real blunt honest
tactics that work.

Your opinion about my advise is noted, and the methods you choose to market your
business is just that, your choice. You can bet your last dollar that you, and everyone
in this venue is my target market. Let's take a reality check. If you Richard, were
building a baseball team, wouldn't you want people who knew how to play the game?

Don't you think that by recruiting people who have experience in network marketing
and can understand pay plans and build teams are the best people to recruit into a
network marketing business? I don't know about you Richard, but I like to recruit up
not down, I don't need to be the sole "go to" person for all the answers and expertise.

When you recruit network marketer you are bringing in opportunity buyers not tire kickers
or test drivers. The learning curve for network marketers is short and it makes more sense
to have players on your team who know how to play the game.

Crash and burn I don't think so. Stick around Dickey boy, you may learn something.

Now I am done with you Richard.......Next

Adam,

Oh Adam you give such sound advise. Don't de-value it by attacking someone who is just trying to give the brutally honest truth. The real reason you and everyone here is coming to better networker is to market their product or service to other network marketers. DUH......You don't need to read magnetic sponsoring to understand that.

My accomplishments speak for themselves and I will never disclose to you how many people follow me or have joined my business because the facts are:

#1. It is nobody's business.....Especially yours and the haters here.
#2. MLM is not about me and what I do. It is about Others and what they can do.
#3 You can love me or hate me, It makes no difference to me. All that matters is
You know Jay Olivo and if you don't know Jay Olivo, then you don't know anyone.