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[Carl Coffin Contribution Level: 3]

Is Ann Sieg Lying? Have you ever done a google search in the past and found a PPC ad from Ann Sieg saying your company is lying to you? In this article I want to turn the tables on Ann a little bit and suggest that she is the one who is lying.

I was always told as a child that the word lying was a strong word to use when accusing someone. I was also told that if you say someone is lying you better have the evidence to back it up.

I have personally purchased and studied Ann Sieg's renegade networking course. I'm a customer of hers and feel qualified in this article to at least share my opinion of Ann's business tactics.
When I purchased Ann Sieg's renegade networking course I have to admit she opened my eyes up to the dangers of traditional network marketing. I learned in her course the reasons why I needed to use technology to build my business. I also learned in her course to view my business opportunity as one of my products. This was also the time I was learning the difference between pushing my company's opportunity and attraction marketing techniques.

All good stuff. However, I have always had an issue with her accusing uplines and company's of lying to us. My upline never lied to me, and my company never lied to me.

I never used Ann's affiliate program because I could not look at my team members face or my sponsors and say you lied to me or the company lied to us.

Many people have built businesses and made money using traditional network marketing techniques. Is that a lie? Many more people have tried traditional marketing techniques and failed. Is that a lie?

In my opinion I believe Ann decided to create the 7 lies of network marketing to catch peoples attention. However, I believe she is doing more harm than good. Network Marketers do not need to be told they are being lied to. Is this helping to change things?

Can Ann back up her statement and prove that sponsors and companys are lying to their distributors? No she can't. The evidence proves that building a successful network marketing business the traditional way can work.

Ann is lying to us suggesting that all network marketing companies are lying to their independant distributors. There is no proof that we are beling lied to. Sponsors are teaching what they have been taught and trying to teach duplication. They are not inadvertently lying to distributors. There are always bad apples in a bunch, but the vast majority of company leaders care for their team. They desire their teams success!!

Maybe Ann should have used the phrase "The Death of Network Marketing" like Ellie Drake did. It is much less devisive and does a service to the industry in at least making distributors take notice of technology and how it is changing the face of network marketing.

What do you think?

[Ferny Ceballos Company: Numis Network Contribution Level: 4]

Hi Carl,

I too have a problem with the way she markets, but
she's making the money so ultimately that's what counts
I guess.

What she was trying to do, as Frank Kern says in Mass
Control, was trying to get people to rally
against a common enemy -- in this case our traditional
prospecting upline who refuses to look at any other
methods or ideas.

To the newbie, Ann's marketing and Mike's marketing might
seem the same. But when you get down to the message
which is being delivered, Mike is a much more effective
communicator and copywriter.

Ann's copy is not very compelling and the parts that are
compelling, she probably didn't even write. She outsources
a lot of stuff, which can be good and bad. Depends
on what she outsources.

A lesson, which Mike teaches in his Traffic Formula
course -- "if there's one skill you need to master in
order to be an effective marketer, it's copywriting".

Even Eben Pagan to this day still writes a lot of his
own copy.

I opted out of Ann's list a long time ago because I found
her emails dull and confusing and having little value.

But then again, she's still raking in the cash so she's
doing something right.

-Ferny

[Brett Slansky Contribution Level: 2]

Hi Carl,
you are not alone. I never actually subscribe to the Ann's mailing list and never purchased her products for simple reason, I do not feel it's good putting fear to people about company upline lying to their distributors.

I have build my business based on great companys PR, media relationships (yes, I get free customers who buy stuff) and my own ability to be very likeable.

I can sit in a coffee shop whole day, have fun and get 5 customers every single day. Technique I use is what Seth Godin calls "Permission Marketing".

On the other hand I use a great technology to get cellphone numbers from prospects all over the New York City using mobile text marketing system - way cheaper then PPC, SEO or any other form of advertisement - and 99% of Network MArketers are not using this technology, so I have no competition. I let all competitors to fight for leads on Google, spend their money and even those so called "MLM Big Shots" that Ann Sieg talks about do not know about this.

Maybe I will write an e-book teaching Network Marketers to use mobile text marketing.

So my business partners never lied to me and that is why I will never evre promote some so called guru, that spreads fear all over the internet.

Suggestion to Ann Sieg - Hey Ann, start teaching how people can use real technology with almost no competition, and stop bad mouthing and stealing peoples dreams!


All the best to all MS people,

Brett

[James Clark Contribution Level: 1]

I to have had a hard time getting Ann's system to grow any faster then the other ways. I will say she opened my eyes to may be easier ones. But in the end all she asked for was to buy into her SOC to get more help.

[Hilary Hughes Contribution Level: 2]

Although I’ve had my own business for 15 years, I’m pretty new to marketing/selling as a career in itself. Perhaps it’s because 7GL was written by woman ( at least, I assume it was ), I latched straight into it. The system itself has become a little cumbersome but I found it a great educational tool for the level I was at.

Hilary.

[Craig Mattice Contribution Level: 2]

Hi Carl,

I've never been a proponent of "negative advertising" as Ann has done. Regardless of how successful she might be it is leaving a very bad taste in people's mouths and is very negative for the members of this industry. For that reason I had no interest in purchasing her program. I understand that as a result of her listing so many NWM/MLM companies on the internet as "lying" to their downlines, she is facing serious legal ramifications.

I purchased Mike Dillard's program because it is nothing but positive in nature. He spoke to me and my wants in a very professional manner and I appreciated being treated like an intelligent individual. He presents from a strong position of only wanting the help and assist people and at a very reasonable price.

There is NO comparison between Mike and Ann. As different as black and white with regard to their impact on the industry members.

[Brett Slansky Contribution Level: 2]

Why most MLM or Network Marketers are always looking for the Greatest Secret that will change their business?

My motto is:
"Do more of what you know works and less of what doesn't work."

So stop spending time to seek for the Ultimate Secret and just do it! And that is the secret that Donald Trump uses, Warren Buffet uses, Grammy Awars POP stars, Professional Athletes, OSCAR-Winning Actors....YOUR Business is not diferrent...

You will save a lots of money, time and headaches.

My BIG TWO cents to open your eyes - without charging you freaking sixty buck or more for it.

;)


Brett

[Craig Mattice Contribution Level: 2]

Sorry Brett but I don't see what your post has to do with the thread or am I missing something?

Help me out here. Thanks.;)

[Brett Slansky Contribution Level: 2]

Dear Craig,
it has to do a lot! Ann Siegs promotes fear and failure in many peoples head. Whatever she teaches are just overused techniques - yet people still spending money on it thinking they will recieved "the secret info that make them rich"

It does not work that way, Ann Sieg is lying and the post is on the "TOPIC"

You have nice day,

Brett

[Robert Garcia Contribution Level: 1]

I've always been taught that you should NEVER bad mouth the competition or the Industry because then it makes us ALL look bad. The way I figure it, EVERY successful Network Marketer was once an Unsuccessful one because nobody is born great at this business. Most of them have worked very hard and spent thousands of $$$ to learn how to be efficient at marketing online/offline or both. Look at people like "Big Al", Joe Schroder, Randy Gage and hundreds of others, they ALL built HUGE businesses without the use of the Internet so that way has to work. I don't think Ann Sieg should be saying that traditional ways don't work...they just don't work for some people.
I feel that any successful Network Marketer has to use a combination of both ways which is why Magnetic Sponsoring works so well. You attract interested prospects to you but then it's up to you to build that relationship with that person so that they won't jump on the next "Ground floor", "We Build it ALL for you", "You don't need to work" etc...

Network Marketing will and always will be a Relationship business.

Robert Garcia
http://www.healthychocolateguide.com