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[Carl Coffin Contribution Level: 3]

Hey friends, how hard is it to create your own system versus using someone elses? Do you think affiliate marketing is better to duplicate throughout your downline than teaching your downline to create their own system?

Thanks for the reply.

[Justin Christianson Contribution Level: 2]

Carl,

There is alot more to it than you may think creating your own system, and I don't really see it as that duplicatable...

I would have to say it easier to plug them into a proven system that works for them to use to build an organization. For one it will be faster duplication this way...

95% are not going to want to take the time and effort that it takes to create a system... So for faster results I would say plug them into a proven system that has everything in place for them....

Just my thoughts,

Thanks,

Justin Christianson

[Craig Mattice Contribution Level: 2]

Hi Carl,

You've got to be kidding, right?

I looked into "creating" my own system of sizzle call, 800 number, auto responder, writing my own letters and follow up emails, and creating my own sizzle message, cards, and other elements including possibly buying, learning, and using ACT! 2007.

The answer was found from talking with my mentor who referred me to a company that has all of that already set up and worked out. All I had to do was plug in. It is awesome because no way I could afford the costs of doing it myself or able to invest the time to "create" the system. I leveraged on someone elses skill, knowledge, and experience.

Now my goal is to use MS and BOB from Mike to capitalize on my efforts with a good ROI for time and money. You can't beat that, right?

[* * Contribution Level: 1]

Hey Carl,

Putting together your own system is alot of work especially if you do all yourself.

But it doesn't have to be as expensive as some may believe.

The biggest hurdle is figuring out the purpose of your system and then writing the copy for it.

Figure that out and someone else can do the technical stuff.

I say, study some of the systems out there. Cast a critical eye. Put yourself in the prospects shoes. Ask questions.

If you feel putting your own system together is not worth the effort, then look into some of the one stop shops out there. I'm a big believer of making the wheel better, not re-inventing it.

Oh, and Justin is right. Most people will never create their own system. Be the exception not the rule.

Good Luck!

-Josh

Hey Carl,

Even though you weren't exactly specific about the kind of system you're referring to, I'm going to assume you're referring to your own funded proposal system.

I'm in agreement with the previous replies to date but only to the extent that trying to build your own vehicle/system when someone else that is a absolute master, has that vehicle already built, it does a quarter mile in 4 seconds flat, and for all intent and purposes it is free for you to use, I have to ask; how much sense does it really make to try to build your own. MS is the Lamborghini of funded proposal systems?

HOWEVER: I am a firm believer you should have your own system in place to sell yourself.

Obviously since you are a member of MS I'm assuming you are sold on the idea of a funded proposal system to generate leads. Still, the way the MS system is set up currently, the entry point is a Squeeze/Capture page. Nothing more and nothing less. Extremely well done but it is still a squeeze/capture page.

A prospects gets to the boot camp video "Capture" page and has no other option than to cough up their contact information, to get their hands on something they hope will lead them to a solution to their problem. NO LEADS and NOT RECRUITING! Understanding that prospect's contact information does equate to recruits and sales and therefore should be considered a form of payment or revenue. So from the prospects point of view, the information isn't really free. He is paying your for it with his contact information.

This method obviously does work, but in this day and age of people being TOTALLY burned out on getting burned by falling victim to capture pages that end up with them getting hammered with sales offers forever, the likelihood of someone entering their REAL contact information is diminishing daily.

So how do I think you should get someone to opt-in to your MS system? You have to have your own system that sells YOU as a solutions provider the prospect comes to trust based on your freely shared experiences and knowledge.

So you do want a system. A pre-sell system that pre-sells YOU so your prospect will consider you credible and trustworthy.

AND . . . you do NOT want to use a Squeeze/Capture page as the only entry point to your system. You DO want to use an OPTIONS PAGE that offers good sound information regarding what ever aspect of Network Marketing you have chosen to address, but GIVE THE PROSPECT A NO OPT-IN OPTION! The page(s) (You may have several covering different aspects of Network Marketing), should say in no uncertain terms "NO OPT-IN REQUIRED". There should be a download link to whatever information or advice you are offering for free. Does that mean you shouldn't have and opt-in form on the page? NO! You'll be surprised at how many people do opt in simply because you offered your information without requiring they opt-in.

Now I know you're probably thinking; "Well then how do I get their contact information?

If you are doing your job of consistently proving to your prospect through a “Multi-Channel Web Activity System”, your are credible and trustworthy, they will opt-in somewhere in your system. But when they do, they will already be sold on you and just about anything you recommend. So providing your own free info without requiring opt-in is the first step in building a foundation for your LONG TERM relationship with prospects.

Why? For a number of reasons:

• You will gain the trust of your prospect before they go into your MS lead base.
  
  
• You will put yourself a cut above your competition by consistently providing useful solutions oriented information and never requiring they opt-in.
  
  
• Considering everybody on the Internet DOES require opt-in (It's my way or the information super highway bud.), your approach will be considered fresh and therefore more appealing.
  
  
• By the time they actually do opt-in to your MS system you can expect they will not only have provided you with their real contact information, but when you follow up with them by phone, or they call you, they will be very open to developing a relationship with you as one of their mentors at best or at least a real friend in the MLM industry at worst. And ultimately the purpose of MS is to provide you with a system that helps you build relationships.
  
  
• By having your own system in place to pre-sell YOU, you will gain a following and over time be able to develop a community of your own that finds you trustworthy and credible. Therefore (And god forbid this happens), but if Mike finally decided some day in the future to sell MS and its spin offs for $50 Mill and under the new ownership everything went all wrong with MS, you still have your system and your prospects.
  

Obviously there are more upsides to having your own "Pre-sell YOU", system in place but those above are some of the main advantages.

Now regarding putting your own system together, there is a way to do that for free and you don't need to know anything about coding anything.

I am producing an e-course on this very subject and I have 2 chapters left to go.

If you want a copy, for Free of course, just PM me and I'll put you on my list of folks I'm sending it to for preview. (And by preview I don't mean a future issues will cost anything. But I do of course plan to improve upon it post feedback.)

So . . . while I agree with everybody so far, in that there is no need to re-invent the MS wheel, you do need your own system. Always be selling yourself.

Just my 2¢ worth.

Excellent question Carl and the replies above are to be well considered.

Take care Carl.

[Reynaldo Perales Contribution Level: 3]

Personally...

..system is what have been working for me from the very
beginning..Now, understand that I had no idea what the heck
a system was and/or how it worked..

I first call it a business feeder because it's exactly what
it would do for me and my downline..

The second one was a letter comparing Network Marketing with
franchises..both were successful for me and my downline..

For sure mind you...for me it has to be with a mindset of
franchises..It is so similar and the success rate is 87% WOW!

A system have to leave our mind alone while it does it's
work and while we learn and practice for us to become
familiar with what we plan on doing..

Now, I gotta tell you really, I just gotta and that is..
for us the masses do business that requires the power of
the mind..you know, we don't have a boss to pay us and
we don't have a skill to sell etc..So how are we going to
get paid?..Who is going to pay us?..

When I say the "POWER of the MIND" The only way we can use
such powers in this here physical world is to learn that
we operate according to our images..and that images are
shape up by our Beliefs and/or how we view the world..

More about that later..

Rey

[Carl Coffin Contribution Level: 3]

DeadIntoIt wrote:

Hey Carl,

Even though you weren't exactly specific about the kind of system you're referring to, I'm going to assume you're referring to your own funded proposal system.

I'm in agreement with the previous replies to date but only to the extent that trying to build your own vehicle/system when someone else that is a absolute master, has that vehicle already built, it does a quarter mile in 4 seconds flat, and for all intent and purposes it is free for you to use, I have to ask; how much sense does it really make to try to build your own. MS is the Lamborghini of funded proposal systems?

HOWEVER: I am a firm believer you should have your own system in place to sell yourself.

Obviously since you are a member of MS I'm assuming you are sold on the idea of a funded proposal system to generate leads. Still, the way the MS system is set up currently, the entry point is a Squeeze/Capture page. Nothing more and nothing less. Extremely well done but it is still a squeeze/capture page.

A prospects gets to the boot camp video "Capture" page and has no other option than to cough up their contact information, to get their hands on something they hope will lead them to a solution to their problem. NO LEADS and NOT RECRUITING! Understanding that prospect's contact information does equate to recruits and sales and therefore should be considered a form of payment or revenue. So from the prospects point of view, the information isn't really free. He is paying your for it with his contact information.

This method obviously does work, but in this day and age of people being TOTALLY burned out on getting burned by falling victim to capture pages that end up with them getting hammered with sales offers forever, the likelihood of someone entering their REAL contact information is diminishing daily.

So how do I think you should get someone to opt-in to your MS system? You have to have your own system that sells YOU as a solutions provider the prospect comes to trust based on your freely shared experiences and knowledge.

So you do want a system. A pre-sell system that pre-sells YOU so your prospect will consider you credible and trustworthy.

AND . . . you do NOT want to use a Squeeze/Capture page as the only entry point to your system. You DO want to use an OPTIONS PAGE that offers good sound information regarding what ever aspect of Network Marketing you have chosen to address, but GIVE THE PROSPECT A NO OPT-IN OPTION! The page(s) (You may have several covering different aspects of Network Marketing), should say in no uncertain terms "NO OPT-IN REQUIRED". There should be a download link to whatever information or advice you are offering for free. Does that mean you shouldn't have and opt-in form on the page? NO! You'll be surprised at how many people do opt in simply because you offered your information without requiring they opt-in.

Now I know you're probably thinking; "Well then how do I get their contact information?

If you are doing your job of consistently proving to your prospect through a “Multi-Channel Web Activity System”, your are credible and trustworthy, they will opt-in somewhere in your system. But when they do, they will already be sold on you and just about anything you recommend. So providing your own free info without requiring opt-in is the first step in building a foundation for your LONG TERM relationship with prospects.

Why? For a number of reasons:

• You will gain the trust of your prospect before they go into your MS lead base.
  
  
• You will put yourself a cut above your competition by consistently providing useful solutions oriented information and never requiring they opt-in.
  
  
• Considering everybody on the Internet DOES require opt-in (It's my way or the information super highway bud.), your approach will be considered fresh and therefore more appealing.
  
  
• By the time they actually do opt-in to your MS system you can expect they will not only have provided you with their real contact information, but when you follow up with them by phone, or they call you, they will be very open to developing a relationship with you as one of their mentors at best or at least a real friend in the MLM industry at worst. And ultimately the purpose of MS is to provide you with a system that helps you build relationships.
  
  
• By having your own system in place to pre-sell YOU, you will gain a following and over time be able to develop a community of your own that finds you trustworthy and credible. Therefore (And god forbid this happens), but if Mike finally decided some day in the future to sell MS and its spin offs for $50 Mill and under the new ownership everything went all wrong with MS, you still have your system and your prospects.
  

Obviously there are more upsides to having your own "Pre-sell YOU", system in place but those above are some of the main advantages.

Now regarding putting your own system together, there is a way to do that for free and you don't need to know anything about coding anything.

I am producing an e-course on this very subject and I have 2 chapters left to go.

If you want a copy, for Free of course, just PM me and I'll put you on my list of folks I'm sending it to for preview. (And by preview I don't mean a future issues will cost anything. But I do of course plan to improve upon it post feedback.)

So . . . while I agree with everybody so far, in that there is no need to re-invent the MS wheel, you do need your own system. Always be selling yourself.

Just my 2¢ worth.

Excellent question Carl and the replies above are to be well considered.

Take care Carl.

Wow!!, thanks for taking the time to write that post. I definately want your free E-book. I will definately take your advice. Thanks.

[Carl Coffin Contribution Level: 3]

DeadIntoIt wrote:

Hey Carl,

Even though you weren't exactly specific about the kind of system you're referring to, I'm going to assume you're referring to your own funded proposal system.

I'm in agreement with the previous replies to date but only to the extent that trying to build your own vehicle/system when someone else that is a absolute master, has that vehicle already built, it does a quarter mile in 4 seconds flat, and for all intent and purposes it is free for you to use, I have to ask; how much sense does it really make to try to build your own. MS is the Lamborghini of funded proposal systems?

HOWEVER: I am a firm believer you should have your own system in place to sell yourself.

Obviously since you are a member of MS I'm assuming you are sold on the idea of a funded proposal system to generate leads. Still, the way the MS system is set up currently, the entry point is a Squeeze/Capture page. Nothing more and nothing less. Extremely well done but it is still a squeeze/capture page.

A prospects gets to the boot camp video "Capture" page and has no other option than to cough up their contact information, to get their hands on something they hope will lead them to a solution to their problem. NO LEADS and NOT RECRUITING! Understanding that prospect's contact information does equate to recruits and sales and therefore should be considered a form of payment or revenue. So from the prospects point of view, the information isn't really free. He is paying your for it with his contact information.

This method obviously does work, but in this day and age of people being TOTALLY burned out on getting burned by falling victim to capture pages that end up with them getting hammered with sales offers forever, the likelihood of someone entering their REAL contact information is diminishing daily.

So how do I think you should get someone to opt-in to your MS system? You have to have your own system that sells YOU as a solutions provider the prospect comes to trust based on your freely shared experiences and knowledge.

So you do want a system. A pre-sell system that pre-sells YOU so your prospect will consider you credible and trustworthy.

AND . . . you do NOT want to use a Squeeze/Capture page as the only entry point to your system. You DO want to use an OPTIONS PAGE that offers good sound information regarding what ever aspect of Network Marketing you have chosen to address, but GIVE THE PROSPECT A NO OPT-IN OPTION! The page(s) (You may have several covering different aspects of Network Marketing), should say in no uncertain terms "NO OPT-IN REQUIRED". There should be a download link to whatever information or advice you are offering for free. Does that mean you shouldn't have and opt-in form on the page? NO! You'll be surprised at how many people do opt in simply because you offered your information without requiring they opt-in.

Now I know you're probably thinking; "Well then how do I get their contact information?

If you are doing your job of consistently proving to your prospect through a “Multi-Channel Web Activity System”, your are credible and trustworthy, they will opt-in somewhere in your system. But when they do, they will already be sold on you and just about anything you recommend. So providing your own free info without requiring opt-in is the first step in building a foundation for your LONG TERM relationship with prospects.

Why? For a number of reasons:

• You will gain the trust of your prospect before they go into your MS lead base.
  
  
• You will put yourself a cut above your competition by consistently providing useful solutions oriented information and never requiring they opt-in.
  
  
• Considering everybody on the Internet DOES require opt-in (It's my way or the information super highway bud.), your approach will be considered fresh and therefore more appealing.
  
  
• By the time they actually do opt-in to your MS system you can expect they will not only have provided you with their real contact information, but when you follow up with them by phone, or they call you, they will be very open to developing a relationship with you as one of their mentors at best or at least a real friend in the MLM industry at worst. And ultimately the purpose of MS is to provide you with a system that helps you build relationships.
  
  
• By having your own system in place to pre-sell YOU, you will gain a following and over time be able to develop a community of your own that finds you trustworthy and credible. Therefore (And god forbid this happens), but if Mike finally decided some day in the future to sell MS and its spin offs for $50 Mill and under the new ownership everything went all wrong with MS, you still have your system and your prospects.
  

Obviously there are more upsides to having your own "Pre-sell YOU", system in place but those above are some of the main advantages.

Now regarding putting your own system together, there is a way to do that for free and you don't need to know anything about coding anything.

I am producing an e-course on this very subject and I have 2 chapters left to go.

If you want a copy, for Free of course, just PM me and I'll put you on my list of folks I'm sending it to for preview. (And by preview I don't mean a future issues will cost anything. But I do of course plan to improve upon it post feedback.)

So . . . while I agree with everybody so far, in that there is no need to re-invent the MS wheel, you do need your own system. Always be selling yourself.

Just my 2¢ worth.

Excellent question Carl and the replies above are to be well considered.

Take care Carl.

Wow!!, thanks for taking the time to write that post. I definately want your free E-book. I will definately take your advice. Thanks.

[Cassly Sullen Contribution Level: 1]

Looking at the above post the key is to find a system that you believe will best fit your needs [img] e

Cassly is right Carl.

Fortunately there are free and very powerful systems available you can customize and add onto as you learn and need to use more of the features. They are highly scalable.

So ultimately you can end up with the system that best fits your needs.

I hope to be wrapping up chapter 9 tomorrow and I will send you the rough draft of what I have so far as long as you will give me some honest feedback on it.