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[monica odenwald Contribution Level: 3]

Hi I see a shift in thinking with MLMers. The first shift is to live on the other side of the quadrant (The B quadrant) and the other is to financially educate their children. YEEEHaaaa! I am on track with this too.

But is their a reason that suddenly, along with this new vision of sucess, College and University is no longer needed, wanted, viable or supported by these MLM families?

I wont even start about service-based professions that are perceived by these same MLM familes NOW as unnecessary, a waste-of-time, an unfortunate circumstance of a truly uneducated society or just NOT part of the picture of true financial freedom.

Has anybody else enjoyed the shift over to financial freedom but don't agree with these biased statements that pop up all the time.

Personally I know that if you took away all those silly 9-5 jobs we would all be like 70% of the rest of the world - living in some form of serious poverty. How is America the best place in the world to live?

Bottom line for me is that education is king and service based work builds communities and and supports our unique lifestyle.

I hope I am not alone in this belief because I have wracked my brain and cant see how America could exist without both of these valuable opportunities for education and amazing community life based on service based professions.

TRADING TIME FOR MONEY HAS GIVEN US A PRETTY DARN GOOD LIFE HERE!

Monica

[Chris Brown Contribution Level: 3]

My friend spent $90k going to College to get a job making $30k his part time business which was suppose to get him throught College of mowing lawns paid him $100K yr but he had not time.

He got involved in a MLM and in only 3 yr became a millionaire.

Most career the better you get at it the more you have to work with MLM the better you get at it the less you have to work.

[monica odenwald Contribution Level: 3]

Chris, I am so happy for your MLM friend. I too know people in debt who went through University. It is sad that our education system is robbing most of us this way. His life choice to excel and prosper at home business was wise. But that example doesn't touch on the 97? of the educated world building the communities like the one we live in and rely on. today.

A society of rich millionaires is not how we establish the reality of community living.

Those service based professions, say at an airport include the pilots, the engineers, the mechanics who make the planes, the staff who greet at the gate, the janitors that clean the airport, the factory workers in tim-buck-two that work the conveyor belt for the molds of the aircraft, etc.

Okay if that doens't resonate, how about a hospital, One saved my life so I like this example. The ambulance drive slaving away to bring us there, the XRay machine designer and manufacturers who produced the machinary needed, the surgeon, doctors and nurses who are devoted all their middle class existence to helping others, the architect who designed the hospital, and even the construction workers who built it, etc.

What do especially like about our society and communities we live in despite the $$ setbacks like paying for education? What is the ALL American dream to you and how do you contribute or speicalize in it?
How was this dream lifestyle founded and by whom and how do we as a people preserve what it the best countries way of life in the world today?

Please don't tell me your life is just about getting rich in an MLM company.

I work to help others truly be all that they are capable of being in today's world and that includes my friend the garbage man, the daycare workers, the senior home care provider, the car salesman and the janitors. The list of my leads is endless in this regard.

Thanks for your feedback because it is very valuable to me. When we focus on solutions a vision grows clearer for us.
Monica

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[Larry Bilich Contribution Level: 2]

Hello Monica,

You are correct in that we need many different people in our world to make it work right down to someone picking up our garbage. All of these jobs ARE very important and my hat is off to everyone that does any one of them and I have great respect for all.

Over the years I have built many Homes and fixed many comodes and changed many kitchen sinks for people to help make there life better for them in some way. Only in my case I decided it wasn't for me anymore and I wanted to go in a different direction on how I built my financial security.

For me I no longer wanted to be working 60 plus hours a week and pretty much getting the same results income wise. I wanted to be home more and have less Stress in my life.

My take on this is that very few people will actually take part in becoming business owners in the B quadrant just like not everyone will become a doctor or Lawyer or a garbage person. There is and always will be plenty of good hard working people out there to cover many of these jobs we very much need done for our society to work.

There are many people that are quite content just having a job and putting in their eight hours a day and calling it a day. And thats OK. If it works for them and they are happy that is all that matters.

Where I see Networkers making mistakes is there thinking that everyone should do what they do and be involved in Network Marketing with their own business. Our industry is not for everyone. And not everyone will want involved in doing it.

The last thing someone in Network Marketing should be telling people is that what they do is wrong or that it won't get them very far financially if they keep being an Employee. That part on what people do for a living is none of our business nor should anyone be put down for doing some of these jobs.

We are all lucky that there are people that do some of these jobs.

Bottom line is this...Do and become what is right for you. Be there for others that may want to do what you do and form a relationship and help other like minded people become business owners in the B quadrant if that is what they want.

Myself...I want to be the guy who runs out the week of Christmas when the garbage man shows up to pick up my garbage and slide a hundred dollar bill in his hand and thank him for doing what he does and wish him a merry Christmas. To me thats some kind of success in my eyes and mind and is what drives me to be more in life and to earn more money.

To everyone's success,

Larry B.

[monica odenwald Contribution Level: 3]

Hi Larry, is it Rememberance Day in USA like here in Canada today?
Anyway thank for sharing your story. I am so happy for you and that you have been able to do this work as a "career."
Today is one of those days where I guess I am thinking of those before us who have sacrificed so much, and those today who gives so much of themselves so we can live in such a great country.
I am like you, I want to be the girl that funds her own MISSION in life with enough brimming over to give lots back to the garbage man or the postal man bringing my checks in the mail...while my kids are watching, of course.
Have a great day Larry,
Monica

[Adam Holland Company: Global Resorts Network Contribution Level: 3]

Well said Dean. I know plenty of people that are great at their positions in their respective companies. I just did NOT fit in within that group. Didn't like authority? dunno. Didn't want to be underpaid/under-appreciated? i guess.

Whatever my kids want - college or not - I'm going to support them.

Hopefully I can "brainwash them" into believing its not necessary over the course of their first 18 years though.. hehe

OR bribe them.. I'll give you 20k for college or 50k to start your first business. HAHA

Sincerely Unemployable,

Adam Holland

[Cheryl James Company: Talk Fusion Global Contribution Level: 3]

Yes... I have a day job and yes I am in a service industry. And Yes, I work at a college.

So how can I not respond to this post? I do agree with most everything that has been said.

A College education is overrated. Especially today, at these prices. Imagine taking your first job for $35k a year with $170,000 of debt hanging over your head. Now that's a REAL downer

Working as a blue collar, I am all too familiar with the employee mindset and the false sense of security, but I do disagree somewhat with what Larry said:

The last thing someone in Network Marketing should be telling people is that what they do is wrong or that it won't get them very far financially if they keep being an Employee. That part on what people do for a living is none of our business nor should anyone be put down for doing some of these jobs.

I believe most people are clueless when it comes to finances and while I won't criticize anyone's position, I do think people need to be educated about money, wealth and assets.

People secretly want someone to show them the truth, their pride just won't allow them to admit that.

[Chris Tryon Contribution Level: 4]

Excellent post, Monica. To answer your question, yes my sons are going to college. My two oldest ones have taken 2 years off to volunteer their time to teach for my church. My oldest son, loves language arts and is currently learning Spanish. Most likely, when he graduates from college, he will be looking for employment as a bi-lingual, Language Arts teacher. My middle son, is planning on a career in engineering.

There is nothing wrong with these professions. My husband and I will do our best to support them regardless of the long-term outcome.

Wouldn't it be great if we could all be wealthy enough from our MLM incomes to work at a J-O-B because we want to and not because we have to? To give back to our communities for the love of contributing to our fellow-man and society?

I totally agree with you Monica. Education can go a long way in today's society.

[Larry Bilich Contribution Level: 2]

Cheryl James wrote... I believe most people are clueless when it comes to finances and while I won't criticize anyone's position, I do think people need to be educated about money, wealth and assets.

People secretly want someone to show them the truth, their pride just won't allow them to admit that.

Yes Cheryl...I totally agree with you about people needing financial education. And if they don't have financial education chances are that they will not understand the benefits of coming into the B Quadrant and maybe building a Network Marketing Business to begin with.

I always direct people to the Rich Dad Books to read and start the education process of learning some financial education first. I want self starters joining me in Business and people who are hungry to learn new things and who really do want to change their finances and future for the better

So I guess what I'm saying is its not up to me to teach people this stuff...Its up to themselves to learn this information. I as a leader can only recommend a certain path one may choose.

We as Network Marketers can say this and say that to people about how wonderful our industry is and how it could be a big benefit for them. But if people don't understand the workings of money and leverage or cashflow or the difference between assets and liabilities your Network Marketing Business is not going to mean much to them to begin with because of lack of financial education to even understand it.

And my take on the pride thing is this...People might want to get over that real soon because its not to smart this day and age to let pride stop someone from learning things that they really should take upon themselves to learn for their own good.

I no longer hold people's hands with kids gloves. Tuff love is some of the best love you can give anyone...Especially when it comes to Finances.

OK...I'm done and I'm going to bed...

Wishing you all my best,

Larry B.

[Nathaniel Johnson Contribution Level: 6]

As a 4th year at UCSC (Uni of California at Santa Cruz) let me say that college is what you make of it. You can go to the best Ivy League school in the nation and not get half as much out of it as from a community college route locally. Much like online businesses, you get what you put in.

Though college is definitely not as ensuring to a job as it was as in say the post world war 2 era but the invaluable, real life lessons learned in college can't be taught anywhere else. I agree with your points, but sending your kids to college doesn't mean you have to sacrifice your financial dreams. I'm a 4th year riding on federal grants, scholarships and loans